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expatriate and JTapia both make excellent points.

If more tax incentives are made available to American businesses, they would be allowed more profit to grow their companies. This would in turn, cause more companies to hire employees through growth.

I have been in a position where I had to let good, hard working people go due to a lack of work. As a part of upper managment, there are many people in our government that would say I am an evil, heartless person for doing that. They would have you believe that I only did it out of greed. That's only, because they didn't have to see my sleepless nights, and being physically sick for doing what I could to save a company and salvaging as many jobs as possible. I also didn't see them cut their own salary to nothing (for several months) in order to help the company they work for survive. Even now, I'm working at less than 50% of my normal salary.

As far as the UAW is concerned, there are many folks (me included) that think the union folks have it too easy. Those $21 and $75 an hour numbers are quite a bit off though. It's actually around $14 per hr for wages and $36 per hour with benefits. The only folks that make over $100,000 per year are the skilled labor when they work a lot of over time. With that being said, I certainly believe the UAW could make more consessions to salvage their jobs.

Now we should talk about the tax incentives received by Honda, Kia, Toyota and Mercedes right here in the US. They were all given huge tax incentives and in some cases our own government built factories for them here in America. They did not do so for any of the American car companies.

We should also look back to see what started this mess. It was gas prices at $4.00 per gallon. The Democrats allowed this to happen on thier watch. By not allowing offshore drilling and keeping our own oil off limits, they let foreign entities control our gas prices.

With all of this being said, it's pretty tough to compete with foreign labor and allow American workers to maintain our quality of life. After all, China and Korea have most of their labor start working when they're still children for wages that are unacceptable by anyone's standards. While Mexico certainly isn't as bad as China, one only needs to visit a few assmbly plants there to see their quality of life. I don't think any of us would like living in their box and pallet shacks or work for their wages.

With all of this being said, there is still a lot of waste by the "Big 3" in their management.......If only I were the "Car Czar." It's really too bad Obama appointed Car Czar's that know absolutely nothing about what they're doing. It's really quite disgusting to all of us that have been working in the industry for so many years.

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I always try to but American when I can, but above that I look for the quality at a fair/reasonable price. This country's products used to be the envy of the world at one time. Now there are certain types of products that no one even makes in this country anymore. I blame the EPA and tax incentives for causing much of this outsourcing. Plus the fact that many Americans these days think that skilled labor jobs are too far beneath them to do. Most Americans just don't like to get their hands dirty anymore.

Of all the things I own I will say that 100% of all my hand tools are USA made and believe me I have a garage full of Snap-On, Proto, MAC, Wright, S-K, Channellock, Klien, Diamond Calk, Lisle, Ridgid, Craftsman, Nicholson, Waterloo, Vaughan, K-D, and the list goes on and on. A couple of my power tools are USA too (Milwuakee). Most of my long guns are from USA firearms makers. All my rifle scopes are Leupold USA made. Nearly all my outdoor and hunting cutlery is USA made(Buck and Gerber), but a few are Finnish and Swedish (Fiskars, Gerber, Rapala). Some of my older Carhartt clothing is USA, but seems like recently fewer new Carhartt stuff is USA made anymore. It's just getting more difficult to buy USA made goods anymore.

Here's the thing. Americans never started demanding that we wanted products made overseas. We've just always wanted cleaner air, cleaner water, and affordable products. To meet all those demands the makers and the government saw a way to deliver that to us, but the price we paid was loss of manufacuring jobs here.

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WesternHunter wrote:
This country's products used to be the envy of the world at one time.

Where?

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We're talking about cars here, not single malt.

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Calebowhunter wrote:
WesternHunter wrote:
This country's products used to be the envy of the world at one time.

Where?

At one time Being Made in Japan meant cheaply made. That has changed.

At one time, people in the Soviet Union, Europe and other parts of the world coveted American made products.

Until just recently GM sold more cars world wide than Toyota.

The Chinese want American products.

Much of the world wants American airplanes and certainly our military weapons.

So now that I think about it the statement that our products used to be the envy of the world isn't true. Some of our products are still the envy of the world.

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Calebowhunter wrote:
WesternHunter wrote:
This country's products used to be the envy of the world at one time.

Where?

3rd rock from the Sun !! Laugh

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CVC wrote:
Calebowhunter wrote:
WesternHunter wrote:
This country's products used to be the envy of the world at one time.

Where?

At one time Being Made in Japan meant cheaply made. That has changed.

At one time, people in the Soviet Union, Europe and other parts of the world coveted American made products.

Until just recently GM sold more cars world wide than Toyota.

The Chinese want American products.

Much of the world wants American airplanes and certainly our military weapons.

So now that I think about it the statement that our products used to be the envy of the world isn't true. Some of our products are still the envy of the world.

I Clyde shipbuilding was the best ship building in the world. Glasgow's past was centred around that, also the steel, turbines, etc.

http://www.scotland.org/about/history-tradition-and-roots/features/cultu...

There was more but I'm not that old enough to remember but we were famous for inventing many things (ATM, TV, Aircraft carrier, Navy, radar, phone, painkillers etc) and pioneering medical treatments etc.

I am speaking of a long time ago though, we had made many products that sold around the world now everything is outsourced to Asian countries for cheap labour.

My Dad owns a harley so i would have to say they're the best bikes in the world but for cars i am still with the eco friendly Japanese cars. Even though i really like my GMC.

I guess it really depends.

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Calebowhunter wrote:
CVC wrote:
Calebowhunter wrote:
WesternHunter wrote:
This country's products used to be the envy of the world at one time.

Where?

At one time Being Made in Japan meant cheaply made. That has changed.

At one time, people in the Soviet Union, Europe and other parts of the world coveted American made products.

Until just recently GM sold more cars world wide than Toyota.

The Chinese want American products.

Much of the world wants American airplanes and certainly our military weapons.

So now that I think about it the statement that our products used to be the envy of the world isn't true. Some of our products are still the envy of the world.

We've been at it before the U.S was discovered by the white man

http://www.scotland.org/about/innovation-and-creativity/index.html

Clyde shipbuilding was the best ship building in the world. Glasgow's past was centred around that, also the steel, turbines, etc.

Though we were famous for many things check out the link below.

http://www.scotland.org/about/history-tradition-and-roots/features/cultu...

There was more but I'm not that old enough to remember but we were famous for inventing many things (ATM, TV, Aircraft carrier, Navy, radar, phone, painkillers etc) and pioneering medical treatments etc.

I am speaking of a long time ago though, we had made many products that sold around the world now everything is outsourced to Asian countries for cheap labour.

My Dad owns a harley so i would have to say they're the best bikes in the world but for cars i am still with the eco friendly Japanese cars. Even though i really like my GMC.

I guess it really depends. I know there are people in the state that dont know for example where the ATM came from or whatever, many great engineerings came from here, that went to America. When the U.S was settled by us we brought many things over that is obviously used today that is taken for granted. Yes

I worked in aviation for years before med school, I am a flight dispatcher to trade. I have to admit I do like boeing but they're no being over shadowed by airbus, they're aircraft out perform but I like boeing too.

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Calebowhunter, not to be critical, but I really believe you neglected the most important Scottish contribution. No not kilts, no not bagpipes.

Scotland gave the world the very best 007 James Bond - Sean Connery!!!! Thumbs up

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So Calebowhunter points to one industry that scotland was best at and actually asks where American products were the envy of the world? Laugh Any causual reading of history will clue ya in.

Oh I will give credit to scotland for it's single malt. I'm a hell of a fan, but those charred barrels the scots use actually come used from our Kentucky Bourbon distillers. Scotch has some Bourbon in it, so I guess that makes it okay. Maybe that's it's saving grace neener!

There was a time in this country (of course before I was born) when the USA produced some exceptionally fine products, everything from automobiles to precision scientific instruments. Nobody remembers when it was the USA who was the finest watch and clock producer, not the Swiss. Even the fuhrer himself used an American made Remington Rand typewriter to write mein kampf.

I will give the scots another bit of credit. If it weren't for the vast majority of scottish citizens leaving their homeland to immigrate to the USA over the years, we probably wouldn't have or have had the workforce here to accomplish what we have over the last few centuries. Thumbs up The USA must still be a great place, millions still immigrate here as they always have.

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