12 replies [Last post]
Location: Kansas city, Ks.
Joined: 07/24/2006
Posts: 23
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

just wondered when its best to rattle during rifle season in missouri, like when i get to my stand and it still dark, just after day break rattle or rattle in the dark and any help with this would be great..... and is it bad to use doe calls in rifle and whens a good time as well Think

Offline
Moderator
Joined: 12/03/2005
Posts: 1691
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

When does your rifle season open? Rattling success is determined by many factors

redrider's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: NE Kansas
Joined: 03/20/2006
Posts: 2603
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

The best time of the season to rattle is just prior to the rut or during the rut. You don't want to rattle until there is enough light to make a shot because if they are close and commit to the rattling they will be there quick. During this period I rattle with either large heavy antlers or a rattle bag that produces big buck tones. I believe the size of antlers will determine the size of buck that will commit. Light rattling works well in the early season also, but usually peaks the interest of smaller bucks just being curious. At this point rattle softer, more like a sparring match. One thing you want to watch for and plan for will be when the big boys commit they will circle you and get down wind. Sometimes a decoy helps bring them in a little closer ( of course for rifle season you should be okay if the rut lands during the season). Be ready they can show up from anywhere! The best time of the day is early morning, just after first light, but I have had great success toward evening also. Nice cool and calm days work best because the sound will resonate much further.
If you do use a decoy remember to set it up using the wind correctly. If you use a doe decoy place it upwind and facing away from you. Buck will come from downwind and to the rear of the doe. If using the buck decoy place it upwind also but have it facing you. Buck will come in to decoy head on looking to intimidate.
As far as the doe call I would use it during the rut and also post rut when the secondary rut may happen. I usually use "the can" with one hand while producing buck clicks and soft grunts with a mouth call. I've had many bucks respond to this.
Good Luck and make sure to let us know how it works Thumbs up

redrider's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: NE Kansas
Joined: 03/20/2006
Posts: 2603
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

I strongly recommend Hunters Specialties Heavy Horns Rattling Bag. Much easier to carry than a large set of antlers. Won't bust up your fingers and they have a great tone for big bucks. Can also be rattled softer for the preseason. I tried a midsize set of antlers and always brought in the same size deer. Switched to a normal rattle bag and had the same results. Finally I switched to the heavy horns last year and had some incredible bucks come in. Unfortunately they stayed just outside my comfortable range with a bow. How do they know your comfort zone Think

Location: Kansas city, Ks.
Joined: 07/24/2006
Posts: 23
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

Missouri rifle season is between Nov.16 to 18th depending year to year.....last 12 days....hey red i still would like to hunt with u here in kanss lol

redrider's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: NE Kansas
Joined: 03/20/2006
Posts: 2603
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

I haven't forgot about ya Thumbs up

redrider's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: NE Kansas
Joined: 03/20/2006
Posts: 2603
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

Your rifle season opens right smack dab in the rut then. Wow, to think of the deer I could have harvvested if our rifle season was during the rut. I like how it is though. Not nearly as many hunters out there during the rut and those big boys have a better chance to get bigger and wiser Thumbs up
Exactly how far away are you from McLouth? You have to be less than 20 min. from Cabelas Think

Location: Kansas city, Ks.
Joined: 07/24/2006
Posts: 23
red.......

some of my wifes family lives in basehor, off 168th and state about 5min. from tongie.... takes me about 25 min. to get to tongie....im about 15min from cabelas, im off of leavenworth rd...... since missouri's rifles in the middle of the rut its ok to rattle when i can see to shoot and how long after can i use doe can..... or use it at all........... Think

Offline
Location: St. Louis County
Joined: 01/10/2006
Posts: 339
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

I also prefer the rattle bag simply because it's not in the way when you need to raise your gun or bow. Also, I believe you're less likely to get busted with a little green bag as opposed to a couple of big white shiney antlers. (imo) Brick Wall,)

redrider's picture
Offline
Moderator
Location: NE Kansas
Joined: 03/20/2006
Posts: 2603
Rattling ( when is it good to rattle in rifle season?)

We're practically neighbors Big smile I can be in Tongie in about 15 min. We'll definitely have to hook up some time if your that close. I'd say you can use that doe can about anytime, won't hurt anything, but the best time to use it and get the attention of a buck would be just before rut andthrough the rut. Keep on using it after the rut because all does that didn't get bred will come back into estrous after the main rut.

Location: Kansas city, Ks.
Joined: 07/24/2006
Posts: 23
red.....

yea we are almost neighbors lol mclouth is just NW of tongie .... when ever its time that u go scouting id like to come and meet yea and just get back in the woods and learn more

Related Forum Threads You Might Like

ThreadThread StarterRepliesLast Updated
Rattling ?Deki101312/17/2005 22:31 pm
"Rattle Cage"...Rattling for Elk...???Artist104/08/2008 15:04 pm
rattling for bucksCORMIER108/22/2006 04:01 am
Nov 29,30 and Dec 1, 2 .......tactics?jeep4x4greg501/20/2008 09:04 am
When to Rattle...Illinois_Dave608/15/2006 20:59 pm