How many of you out there liek to rattle while you are hunting? I have personally just started hunting and i mostly still hunt ocasionally sitting down and waiting on a cute line or a clearing at dusk or dawn? What do you guys think about rattling? dose it work? Hunting season in alberta on whitetail is from Nov 1- 30? what would be the best time try rattling next season?
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Mon, 2005-12-05 18:30
Wed, 2005-12-07 19:59#1
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Some does and spikes get curious, Sometimes 4's and 6's come out to check their competition it seems, they stay pretty far away and stomp, scrape, snort and cirle but are very withdrawl from the immediate area. But it is more wicked than hell to see Old King come tearin' ass through the woods to see who's who.
I learned how to rattle by watching the bucks in my woods going at it and a few are really into it and a few are just biting of more than they are ready for. We have a old buck who this year has 18 points with an extra drop tine on his left. If he is in the area, which could probably be over a half mile, he beats feet quicker than hell to own both the competitors, and he will mount every doe in the area as quick as possible, he's not good at it but he's fast.
Truthfully my advice is beat the hell out of the antlers and wait five to ten minutes, but before you do it again MAKE SURE there are no deer coming your way. Fake antlers at close range has always scared my bucks.
Wed, 2005-12-07 20:07#2
ohh thanks a lot that is good to hear! i am deffinetly excited about trying it out next season.. maybe il try them before the season too and see what happends.... is there like any specific locations you should do it at.. like a cute line or a clearing or soemthing? and thats awsome about the huge buck in your woods how come you havent taken him yet?
Wed, 2005-12-07 20:39#3
another question does it matter if you use real or fake antlers? and do you use any calls before or after simulating a fight?
Thu, 2005-12-08 13:55#4
Frankly, I've never tried rattling but I've heard that it tends to work where bucks have to compete for breeding rights. Here in the east, the buck harvest is heavy so the surviving bucks have all the ladies they can handle. Thus, there's no need for them to muscle in on an available doe. It may be for this reason that rattling is seldom successful in New York State.
Thu, 2005-12-08 16:53#5
Old King has been around for six years that I know of and the woods wouldn't be the same without him, he has sired three obvious bucks, look just like him with the racks. I hunt for meat and population control. Bad breed and previously wounded or handicapped(lost/infected legs) are my first choice. I have a few mounts but never understood the whole 'Trophy' thing. I peronally think it doesn't matter. Originally I tried real ones but hated to take them back in fear my ignorant neighbor would take a shot, he is not the sharpest knife and even less trustworthy. I decided to buy a rattle bag but I am too cheap to buy plastic sticks in a bag for ten or more dollars, so I made my own for free.
As for calls I usually do. More than often what seems to bring them in is one low deep bellow, wait a minute and give two short bleats, wait a minute and give a mild bellow and soon after three quick deep grunts. Give a few hard sharp hits on the rattle seperated by a few seconds, wait a minute and give the rattle hell for almost a minute and quickly taper off adding time between strikes. Give a long low bellow and you should be good. If you use this method you have to wait quite a while for the next time. The best way to put it for a normal call is think of a bad school yard fight between kids, some talk, some punches, and a whole lot of staring.
Thu, 2005-12-08 22:38#6
Thats awome about the big buck... how often do you see him and how come your neighbor has not shot him yet? hahah that sounds like some good advice i will give it a shot.. where are you from? and do you have your own ranch if u manage the population and exct?
Fri, 2005-12-09 15:17#7
Kinda hard to read your post so sorry if I don't answer your questions right.
I' like to beleive that the reason my neighbor hasn't shot king yet is because King's smarter. He doesn't come out until late and that's when the neighbors already bored with life and settles to drinking by the tube.
I have always wanted a ranch but the family handed down a farm. We got out of dairy in '84 when Grandpa died and got out of horses when the last Appy passed in 2001 at thirty one years old.
I mostly population hunt cause I love the meat and I see no reason to kill a perfectly good animal if you don't have to. It took a few good deer to realize this.
I took some hearty bucks early on and saw the population getting rather weak and lanky, tines were really small almost immediately. Not only was I killing the good genes, I was running them off. That's when King stepped into the picture.
I was actually out with my .22 going for squirells when he saw me. He snorted like a demon posessed and as I turned to see him he was already stomping. I figured no big deal because he'd probably just run of like the rest, so I was just going to watch him and memorize his actions for later on the hunt.
Wrong, dead wrong.
He took at me like a locomotive and I jumped that tree like a monkey, even ditched my gun. He stopped short of the tree and paced around it for a little while and racked his antlers against it a few times. Scared the powder right out of me.
After he left and I got down, I realized how unfair this game was and every time I see him it reminds me.
He hunted me once and won, now I hunt his way, stealth but no hiding, weapon but no technology, and trust, not control.
Sat, 2005-12-10 20:27#8
wow i have never heard of anything like that! i would have allways thought that if you are that close to a deer he would run away not charge at you... thats wierd.. he deffinetly runs that neck of the woods then.
Mon, 2005-12-12 16:54#9
I've learned along time ago no matter what, no one truly knows a species. There are too many environmental and natural controls and personalities are as complex and diverse as humans. What works for me here at home does not work at my cabin in southern Ohio. I've heard people have something they hunt by every year and they would fail with out it, when it would only spook or repel deer in another area. The only thing that will help a hunter overall is to learn the deer he/she will hunt. Good Luck.
Mon, 2005-12-12 22:44#10
It would also help to see a video of someone that is good at rattling to know just how much noise you actually make when you really get into it. I usually start out quietly (a couple of grunts and tickle the antlers together) and wait to see if there is a buck in close but after enough time has passed that I don't think anything is coming then I'll get louder and try to call them from farther away. It is good to have a buck tarsel gland with you because when they come they expect to smell that other buck(s) and during the right stage of the rut some doe in heat lure.