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So far the only one that got the question was fuzzy bear.

The question was, is there any range that someone could shoot that YOU FEEL IS UN-ETHICAL? Or is the any range you practice at a good answer?

Chester Golf summed up my feeling's pretty well when he said, "you can't wound paper target's". My feeling is paper target's don't bleed. I guess he get's it too but he doesn't really say at what point he'd concider someone else not being ethical.

I think that at some point, if we as a group don't decide what's ethical and what's not, the law will step in and decide it for us. We just may not like that.

CZ is out with a new rifle their claiming is a 500 yd rifle BUT they don't recommend shooting at that range. That they probally mean, but tossing the idea that "we got a rifle made for it" will likely increase sale's.

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Long shots take mucho practice. If you don't practice @ ranges you expect to shoot then don't shoot. There are many factors to take in when shooting distances. What one man thinks is ethical another may not. Put the average deer hunter next to David Tubbs.

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To answer your question more directly. I feel 0-400yds to be reasonable, 400-600yds to be questionable, 600-750yds to be foolish, and 750+yds to be unethical but this is a hugely individual opinion.

Nobody, no matter what their opinion on LR shooting is, can say there is no range where it is unethical. Every caliber has a limit based on the power needed to actually be able the kill the animal.

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Fuzzy Bear was right about why I put it up there too. I was just curious if any one would take a stand against shooting beyond any particular range. Not many will even if it appear's they do think some thing's just shouldn't be done. Some guy's, not here got real indignate about a question like that. Seem's like they don't want anyone questioning their practices so they say nothing. One guy told me in private, again not here, that he can shoot 5" groups at 400 yds,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,off hand! Yet he imposes a 300 yd limit on his big game shooting. Then he said the guy's he hates are those that can't shoot at 100 yds. Well they can be taught to shoot! Some guy's can't be taught not to!

Anyway, I agree with Fuzzy Bear. I know that guy's do it farther and some on a regular basis, I used to do it myself. I'm getting older now and Chester Golf is right, "ya can't wound a paper target." I'll bet Fuzzy Bear has caught a lot of crap over his view. Thumbs up

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Last deer i took was with a 270 using 130 grain winchester silver tips. I was laying down in a field and the deer was walking towards me, It dropped instantly at 483 yards. Went right into the neck and hit all vitals except the stomach (thank god lol ) didnt ruin any meat
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I have a beautiful, completely custom made rifle in 270 wsm with a 26" #5 contour barrel and a high end target towered 10x 44 scope that shoots one hole at 100 yds. I have become proficient enough to tag jack rabbits at farther than I could ever imagine and have given thought to using it on an open country muley hunt. It's a great shooter but, that's what it is a shooter not a long range hunter.
There is no doubt in my mind, under ideal conditions, that this rifle would be effective and accurate to 700+ yds.
For me, the best part of the hunt is the hunting. If I want to shoot. I shoot at paper.
Thanks, enough said.

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OK. How do you lay on the ground, shoot at a deer 483 yds away, hit it in the neck,and take out all the vital's? The bullet would have to bounce off of something to start it's trip into the vitals.

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The lower part of the neck, well i guess not realy the neck , my mistake itd be the chest. Sorry bout that.

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is not.....for the 'average' guy/hunter/shooter!

http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/longrange_shooting/shooting_hunting...

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Good reading. Everybody should read that article atleast once over. Thumbs up

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