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range finders, Zero at 25,

Thank you for your opinion before hand. For thise with experence with Redfield's 550 ranger finder, please tell your opinion, pros and cons. Will it range deer out to 500 yds in the field?

I was wondering how many other shooters sight their rifles to zero at 25 yrds?

My 7/08, 140gr NP @2800 fps has point blank range to (+/- 3")  279 yds, zero at 25 yds and again at 237 yds.

Here is my method. Set a target 25 yds, or paces away. (in front of a good back stop).

From a rest, cross hairs dead center target, fire one round. Return the rifle to point of aim, holding rifle still adjust cross hairs to center of bullet hole. Now I am spot on with a one shot sight-in. Sure saves on ammo. 

For a rest I use empty beer cans. Crush them in the middle and stack them Linclon-log style. I put a shop rag down to protect the hood of my beater 72 ford p/u. Hint: The faster the beer is drained the more cans and better the rest.

Then I stagger out to 100 yds or so and set the target up. I use a pie tin. If I knock it over I'm good to go. One time I don't remember seting two targets 100 long steps away but when I looked through my rifle scope I saw both targets. With both cross hairs on both targets I knocked them both down with one shot. I owe this good shooting to the 13 emptied beer cans used for a solid rest. The 16oz seem to make a better rest than 12oz.

I can't be full of it, I drained the beer lol

 

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As far as the range finder

As far as the range finder question, I have a bushnell scout arc 1000, it will range non reflective targets out to 600 yards and reflective targets out to 1000 yard.

No, I have never zero'd my rifles at 25 yrds, I have tried once and didnt work for me so I re zero'd at 100 yards.

Now come the drinking and shooting part. That has got to be the dumbest thing a person can do. No offence intened. But I have to tell it how it is.

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are we missing the point?

Numbnutz,

The Point of the zero at 25 is it works in theory. But in practice trust and verify at 100 yds.

I have found it really save both time and ammo to zero at 25 and then move out to 100. Also I no longer counting clicks to adjust rifle scope. It is so much easier to return to point of aim, keep the rifle steady and adjust the cross hairs to center of impact. At 100 yds I use a red/orange sticky dot to cover a three shot group. This makes it easier to adjust to center of impact.

The need of  a good solid rest is high lighted by the good example of a bad example: empty beer cans.

A range finder out to 600 yds on non-reflective target, deer, black bear fills my needs. Thanks for the tip (Bushnell scout arc 1000)

I was reading you are from Oregon and hunt in the same area. 

 

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in theory

I've heard the in theory part before, and for me it's just a theory. I set my rifle in a solid rest (clamp). then use a laser bore sight and on a dark target you can see the red dot at 100 yards. I line up the reticle on the dot at dead center, then remove the bore sight and test fire. it works great. one or two shot later I'm done. What part of Oregon you from? I'm from Gresham and hunt primarily in eastern Oreon however I do hunt western Oregon during late season archery. I switched to archery a few years ago because I got tired of seeing so many other hunters during the rifle seasons. I didn't mean to offend about the drinking and shooting comment I had a friend in high school get hurt pretty bad by doing that.

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In Theory

I live in Milwaukie.Been here in Portland area since 1979.

Always been a rifle hunter for no other reason just have not tried archry.

Most of the hunters I see are road hunters. Get 25-50 yds off the road and see no more. Just remember to wear hunter orange when near an old logging road. In the news this week was another hunter shot. The shooter thought he was a bear in the bushes.

Lazser range finder sounds good. 

 

 

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I saw that story and post a link to here on the forum. I haven't road hunted since i was 17 years old. I alway get into the woods. But even still see more and more riflr hunters evey yyear. I wanted a new challenge so I took up bow hunting. It's really fun. With all the stories of people getting shot or shot at I just figured it would be safer with a bow and arrow. I agree with you on the road hunter and getting off the road 100 yards greatly increase your chances of not seeing anyone else but like i said I wanted a new challenge. Milwaukie isn't to far from where I live and I used to work in the milwaukie area.

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Blacktail @ green peter

This year I will be heading south west of Grants pass towards Ca boarder. Got two Bear tags, and one black tail.

New area to learn, less under brush. 

Actually I heard that ferral hogs are moving in from Idaho in Eastern Oregon. Have you heard anythnig?

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nope.

There are some nice blacktails down that way. I used to hunt down there many years ago. Alot of bears between Roseberg and the coast, you should have some great hunting for bears. My first blacktail buck was taken down out of Grants pass. I know we have a small population of hogs near Madras and then in the se corner of the state by the boarder of Cali and Nevada. None to speak of in Ne Oregon. I hunt up there just about every year.

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I would really like to see

I would really like to see what you get for responses concerning a Redfield rangefinder.  I mentioned in the Redfield scope review, I am looking for a rangefinder, and the Redfields are tempting because of the affordability.  It fits right into the range (No pun intended) that I wanted to spend for one too.

I'd like to see how it ranges out to, say 350-400 yards.  I don't think I would be shooting out that far, so I am not so concerned with anything beyond that.

BTW, Hopefully you drain the beer in the days leading up to the range visit, not actually at the range... Wink

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550 Range finder specs

 

I found this information by viewing on-line Redfield owners manual. 

Surface texture, color, size, and shape of the target all affect reflectivity, which in turn affects the maximum range of the instrument. As a rule of thumb, brightly colored targets are much more reflective than darker targets. Tan game coats are more reflective (and thus provide a more solid reading) than a black roof. A shiny surfaceis more reflective than a dull surface. Smaller targets are more difficult to range than larger targets. Light conditions, haze, fog, rain, and other environmental conditionscan all affect ranging performance. Any factor which degrades air clarity will reducethe maximum effective range. The sun generates infrared energy that can degrade ranging performance in bright conditions or when ranging towards the sun.

Blow away dust or debris on lenses, or use a soft lens brush(such as the one found on the Leupold®LensPen®).

To remove fingerprints, water spots or tougher dirt, use a soft cotton cloth or the cleaning end of the Leupold LensPen. A lens tissue with lens cleaning fluid may be used for more stubborn dirt. Always apply cleaning fluid to the cleaning cloth, never directly to the lens.

To insert a new battery, remove battery cover and remove exhausted battery. Insert new CR-2 battery, negative terminal first, into the battery compartment. Close battery cover.

 

MAXIMUM RANGe   Yds Met

Reflective Target    550 500

Trees                    450 410

Deer                     400 365

They provide useful information, to bad it was hard to find.

 

 

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Thanks, good info there.  I

Thanks, good info there.  I seriously may consider getting one.  It is one of the things I am missing from my hunting arsenal, and if I plan on following through and actually going on my Colorado elk hunt next fall, I will definately need one.

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