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Location: NONYA,thats in MONTANA
Joined: 07/22/2005
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I am from Helena Mt.its just about right in the middle of the state,my family has been here since the late 1890's and we have a ranch near Wolf Creek and one near Augusta along the Rocky Mountian front.Our Mule Deer are making a upward swing along the lines of trophy deer as the numbers in most areas have been up now for about 4 years.The last two years in a row I have taken my best buck yet as has my uncle whom I hunt with every year.Check out the lets see your Muledeer thread to see thier pics.It is very easy for an out-of-stater- to hunt deer here and some of the best MD terrain in the state is on public lands.The area around Fort Peck resevoir called the Missouri Breaks has always been one of our best trophy MD producers and it is ALL public.I am going up there Fri. to hunt elk but I will be keeping an eye oput for MD as well,I plan on returning for MD during the rifle/rut season.Last year Chuck Adams killed a huge non-typical MD up there with his bow during the rifle season on public land.I will scan a pic of 2 deer we took up there the first year i hunted there and post it in a minute....Ok we spent 2 days up there in a boat spotting deer and then going ashore to make stalks,my uncle took a good deer but we didnt get a shot at a good deer before a huge snowstorm moved in and we had to pack our s*** and get out,on the way out of the CMR we spotted these 2 bucks bedded out in the middle of a wide open valley 1/2 mile off the road,we hopped out and made a run for a ridge that gave us some cover and got within 250 yards of them,we got lined up and counted down from 3,2,1,BOOM!! niether one of them got up.Of course my father got dibbs on the big nontyp but he did spot them,i was very happy with a 32" 3 point!! Thumbs up

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Location: NONYA,thats in MONTANA
Joined: 07/22/2005
Posts: 242
R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

What part of Montana will you hunt i may be able to give yu some info.... Think

Location: Utah
Joined: 02/24/2003
Posts: 596
R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

I think hunting with a guide is still hunting and here's why. Here's a question; If I take a 14 year old kid who has never hunted in his\her life and I put that kid on a deer and he\she connects did that child go hunting? Finding game is only one aspect of hunting. Just because someone else knows an area better and puts you on game doesn't mean you didn't hunt. Yes maybe you hunted with a handicap but you are still hunting. One aspect of hunting was done for you. Anytime you have to sight in your rifle or tune your bow and you are in the woods, fields, mountains chasing wild animals where there are no fences and you are the one who makes the shot you are hunting. Still gotta get up before dawn, you still gotta put miles on the boots, still gotta stalk or sit sliently, and most of all you still gotta make the shot.

Private property doesn't even matter. Hunting private property is easier than public ground usually simply because of pressure and/or management practices. But it's still hunting. What difference does it make who owns it?

tim
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Location: north idaho
Joined: 06/11/2004
Posts: 601
R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

what about the guy that wants to go to alaska sheep hunting? Legally with no family members in the state, I would have to hire a guide. Would this trip be considered a non-hunting trip? defianlty on public land, defianlty hard, but you are following someone.

tim

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Location: NONYA,thats in MONTANA
Joined: 07/22/2005
Posts: 242
R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

the mods here insist on deleting threads and posts they find unacceptable,why is this thread still here?LOLOLOL Think

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Location: Texas
Joined: 07/22/2005
Posts: 32
R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

Im not a fan of high fence hunting. I can't afford a guide or a cook or a fancy lodge.......so i guess that means i'll never make the record books.
BUTTTT I do love hunting on a private lease. I am feeding many deer and only harvesting a couple. Its much safer than hunting with some of the public land hunters I have run across in my day. I used to public land hunt and I loved it.
But I also love having the comforts of a private low fence lease. I dont have to make cast iron skillet coffee, or eat pork'n bean out of a can to be a true hunter. Lots of hard work every year on fences, hunting boxes, trimming tree's, brush, scouting, videos.......i can assure you there is plenty of sweat going into my hunting preparations.

Now with that said.........The best of luck to ya on your hunting.

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Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 07/27/2005
Posts: 82
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The best to you too. Low fence hunting on private leases where your putting in your own sweat and grit is a whole different animal (pun intended). You did a lot of work it sounds like to me. You all know the commercial-type applications and those that partake in it is what I'm talking about here. I don't think the folks creating them or buying the services are immoral or anything. It just aint my reality of hunting and never will be. If it came to that I'd simply quit. If I can't FIND my own animal with the freedom of public land (part of the immense joy of the HUNT) strategize a stalk plan and harvest the animal with MY own skills then I'd only be doing PART of the hunt. I want to (and have to) do it all, to get what I'm after with the hunting experience. that is all. After all that is why it's called hunting and not shooting.

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Location: Texas
Joined: 07/22/2005
Posts: 32
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This morning i was watching monster bucks, realtree outdoors etc.......and it came to me.........These guys are taking 150, 160, 170 class deer 10 times a year. Flying from lodge to lodge, eating great, guided hunts, shown what areas to hang there tree stands.......and for all i know half of them could be behind high fence ! I love watching for fun, but its so far from the real or average or everyday hunter that they really are not even comparible. Like i said in my earlier post i dont get into high fence ranching because you are raising deer in a fenced (real big) back yard, following them with cameras and shooting them...........I would do it if someone offered it one time, but with low fence open range you just never know what your going to see. I hunt in the hill country and have seen hogs, cayotes, ring tail cats, bobcats, whitetail, turkey, sika, fallow and for folks who hunt in texas and can appreciate this........I shot an ELK for christ sake on a thousand acre low fence ranch. ok, i said my peace. Good luck and goodnite.

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