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R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I beleieve that hunting with Guides is not really Hunting!!!!!!!
Have a wake call and leading you all, day is not hunting!!!!!!!
It's just shooting!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look over their!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Private Land Hunting for the most part is, we only have a few people that hunt here, or we've been raising this one over here, let me shake of the pan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scoring Guided & Private Land harvested animals should not be allowed Boone Crockett or Pope & Young!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or should they be a club that only excepts Non-Guided Public Land animals ONLY?????????????????

Bowedark

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R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

I don't know what your gripe is with outfitters/guides, but they provide a valuable service. I've never used one for hunting and have not had a need to - yet! I happen to live in an area that I'm familiar with the terrain, weather, etc. If I decided to hunt, lets say in one of the southern states or maybe the northwest with dense vegetation, I would seriously consider a guide for my first trip into those areas.

Not sure why you think its not hunting when going out with a guide, but trust me in this part of the country, it is hunting, whether you go it alone or with a guide. I'm sure there are lodges that provide luxurious amenities and its more of a vacation than a hunt, but I'm guessing that's not the norm.

Lighten up!!!

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No Guides On Public Land

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R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

Why do you have such a problem with people going on a guided hunt?LOL In some states you have no choice,and if you are not familiar with the area and can afford it hiring a guide is the best way to go.In many areas the guides own the hunting rights and its the only way to go.Not everyone can afford to travel out of state to somewhere like the Missouri breaks to hunt public lands that DO have good animals,should the ones that can not be allowed to enter thier trophys in the book?Whats the difference?A guide on a fairchase hunt is no different than a friend that knows the area you are hunting,ever done that?If you want to whine about a record book that allows BS entrys talk about Safari Club,they allow entrys from canned hunts and they do everything they can to promote that style of "hunting".I know many guides and I have family that guide here in Montana,Im sure they would be more than happy to take you on that elk hunt you didnt get if you can afford it. Think

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R Guideed & Private Land, Really Hunting?????????

Good for you Bowedark!

However just because someone uses a guide does not make it less of a hunt.

There is no right or wrong way, and its crazy to claim that just non-guided public land hunts should count for trophies. Same goes for private land. Have you seen some of the ranches out west? They can be as big a small state out east!

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Thats a fact cowgal,the ranch i will be hunting on next weekend for elk just south of the CMR is 130,000 acres.Why shouldnt a trophy shot off that ranch be just as welcome in B&C as one shot off the CMR that it borders,just because its public land?I have never heard this opinion before,is it a joke? Think

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In many areas the guides own the hunting rights

Good one of not like Guided Hunts!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not everyone can afford to travel out of state to somewhere

But they can ?$$$$.$$ Guided Prviate Land for a hunts????????

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huh? Habla ingles? Think is this another one of your "jokes" like when Think you posted about the low animal numbers in MT and tried to talk people into forfiting thier tags so you could get one?

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Should they be Guide & Private Land animals in their own class of Boone and Crocket and P&Y. Or a class just for Non-Guided Public Land animals.

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No.

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So you're say that if I go out and bust my rear all year long planting my food plots, tracking deer, scouting, maintaining roads, hanging stands, and all those kinds of things that my deer, elk, or whatever is not as good as yours because you went on to public land a took yours?? Think Somehow I just don't think so! Shame on You!

You're animal is no better than mine and if I use a guide in a new area it is still not any different.

If I take a friend hunting I hang their stand or put them in a good area. Does that make them a bad hunter NO. It just means that they have the sense to seek out help when it's needed.

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