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Question about reloaded ammo?

I have never reloaded any bullets and have just recently shot some reloaded ammo that a friend gave to me. the question that I have is about some .223 Rem. reloads that he gave me that don't fit into my guns chamber. When I put the bullets into the chamber and try to close the bolt the bullet hits the rifling in the barrel and the bolt can't close. Are these bullets salvageable or do I need to dispose of them ? I am ashamed to call my friend and tell him about it if he can't fix them. I would just as soon dispose of them then make him feel bad, after all he gave me the bullets anyway. I forgot to mention that the bullets are 75 grain speer soft points. He cooked them up for us to use on Axis deer. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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It is a simple fix in one sense if the overall length of the cartridge is the problem. The bullet can be seated deeper to reduce the length and back the bullet off the lands.

My caution on reseating the bullet is how will that affect the load and pressure? There are more knowledgable people on here that can weigh in to say if it would be an issue.

If he only necked sized the cases then it may be that the case was fire formed to fit his chamber but doesn't fit yours. In that case the entire cartridge would have to be disassembled and the case full sized.

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There are too many unknowns to safely use those reloaded cartridges. I'll hazard a guess and say that your firearm is a semi auto and your friend is reloading for a bolt, but I did say "guess".
My biggest concern is the powder charge weight, if is is at, or getting close to maximum charge weight and you use them, then bad things can happen in a hell of a hurry.
The bullets can be pulled from the shell case, the powder can be reused, maybe the cases can be resized as CVC mentioned, costing the reloader only his/her time.
But NO, you should not be using the cartridges at this juncture.

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Hammer1 raises some very good points and offers good advice that I would follow.

The same load will react differently in different rifles, even the same model. This is the reason that all reloading manuals caution to start with the minimum load and work up watching for any signs that the load is too hot.

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I am always a little wary of people saying that they are using other peoples reloads. This is a perfect example of why. Nothing against your friend but I wouldnt use any questionable reloads. I personally do them for some close friends but i wont do them for them unless they come over with their guns and go over every thing together. I start by making dummy rounds(brass and bullet) to ensure proper chambering. Then I start by loading sets of 3 in each powder weight. To get the optimal accuracy. It is a long process, I personally would stay clear of any reloads that are just handed to me with out any preperation.

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Not only is it not wise to use those unknown loads but, the 75 grain are quite large for a standard barrel twist in a 223. They probably won't stabilize and be very erratic in flight.

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I think I read that the heavy 22 bullets needs a 1-8 twist to stabilize. The fact that you can't close the bolt due to the bullet hitting the lands means he might have a longer throat than you. That may well be that a load in his rifle that is safe won't be in yours.

I have loaded for a number of different people but I won't do it without having their gun here. No two rifles are exactly the same inside.

Now here's something to think about. Speer doesn't list a 75 gr 22cal bullet in their special purpose bullets. What do you really have there?

Give then back to him, he probably has a bullet puller.

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Thanks for all of the great advice and input, like I said I don't know beans about reloading and I asked him to make me these bullets for us to shoot Axis deer with because we have already lost 2 nice bucks this year due to the poor performance of the 55 grain bullet. I know what you are thinking, why not use a larger caliber that will take them cleanly? Well the reason is that the land owner originally only wanted us to use a .22 Mag. We had too many instances where we almost lost animals because of the lack of performance of the .22 Mag. Don't get me wrong, when the shot is absolutely perfect you will drop deer like stones but shots like that are very few. We convinced the land owner to let us use a .223 Bolt Action and had great results untill we encountered large bucks with big bodies and the bullets didn't seem to get to the vitals. Thats why we wanted the 75 grain bullets for a little more punch. I will follow your advice and give the bullets back to my friend and try to convince the land owner to let us use a larger gun. Once again, Thanks for the great advice.

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Nosler makes a 60gr partition that might work in your rifle. Ten again it's pushing the envelope with the rifling twist you probably have, maybe. You might try a different brand of 55 gr bullet.

The fact that you can get close enough to use a 22 mag tells me the ranges aren't that far. Perhaps the 60 gr bullets will work well in your rifle. First I'd try the 55gr tho.

You start fooling with the heavier bullets, your gonna lose velocity and I'd wonder if there would be sufficient velocity to make to long a bullet work right.
come to think of it, doesn't Barnes make a TSX in 22 cal? That would be the way to go.

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Yes don, they do Im not sure what twist rate he has but the min twist for any of the tsx's are 1:8 for the 70gr and 1:12 for the 45 and 53 gr and 1:9 for the 62gr. These are all in a 24" barrel as well. Hope that helps

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frontier wrote:
Thanks for all of the great advice and input, like I said I don't know beans about reloading and I asked him to make me these bullets for us to shoot Axis deer with because we have already lost 2 nice bucks this year due to the poor performance of the 55 grain bullet. I know what you are thinking, why not use a larger caliber that will take them cleanly? Well the reason is that the land owner originally only wanted us to use a .22 Mag. We had too many instances where we almost lost animals because of the lack of performance of the .22 Mag. Don't get me wrong, when the shot is absolutely perfect you will drop deer like stones but shots like that are very few. We convinced the land owner to let us use a .223 Bolt Action and had great results untill we encountered large bucks with big bodies and the bullets didn't seem to get to the vitals. Thats why we wanted the 75 grain bullets for a little more punch. I will follow your advice and give the bullets back to my friend and try to convince the land owner to let us use a larger gun. Once again, Thanks for the great advice.

Frontier

Get him to allow you to use a 22-250 and buy a premium factory ammo for it like Federal with Nosler partitions or Trophy Bonded Bear Claw. You'll get more knock down power with the 250.

Edit: and has been said never, never, ever, shoot someone else's reloads in your gun unless they started at minimum loads for your gun specifically that were shot in your gun up to the chosen load. So many variables as someone else said that you could risk blowing your gun up by doing this.

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