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Pump, over/under, or semi-auto shotgun?

So watching the outdoor channel (duck/pheasant hunting) I noticed a lot of users(almost every show) carrying over/under shotguns. So it got me thinking, which one is the best for bird hunting in general?

Now, I think the idea of having an over/under shotgun would be great. I think due to ease of use(from watching the shows). I could be wrong though.

What is the differance between the 3 mentioned?

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It will depend a lot on where your shooting. The most favorite waterfowl gun I ever owned or used was the model 500 Mossberg pump in 12ga. I've used a number of different guns for upland birds. An old Browning double auto with a skeet barrel was poison on grouse when I lived in Montana. Up in Alaska I used an 870 special field, pump. I've owned a couple O/U's but never really cared for them, I have a Browning Citori in 20ga right now that I never shoot. My favorite guns? S/S's hands down. Presently I have several,but for the past 8 or 10 years I've used an AyA in 16ga for everything. Haven't hunted ducks much for years tho and there I would go back to a pump. Don't really know why except I have this thinking ducks like it better when they're shot with a pump!

I can't imagine where one type action would really be all that superior over another in normal hunting situtations. What most use are actions or type guns they like. The O/U's I think are just an in thing or maybe statement maker. They've been that for a very long time. Somebody sure likes them! The action opens to far in a blind and like a SxS, it doesn't hold enough rounds for blind shooting. Yea, I know all you need is one but I used to get greedy! The pump is less prone to jambing than the auto and not as sensitive to fouling. Some auto's don't work real well if the gas piston gets fouled out! That was never a problem with the old recoil operated auto's. The pump is also quick and easy to change a barrel on if you want. I don't know anyone that does, but you could. My old Browning double auto was fast that way and I did change barrels quite often. The Browning's safty left a lot to be desired tho. It was a small slide behind the trigger guard that kept the trigger from moving back, nothing more!

I believe the only real advantage to any is how they feel to you. A shotgun is a very personnal thing, it's an extension of you. Much more so than a rifle. I would rather an inexpensive SxS, Stevens 311, to any auto, pump or O/U for normal shooting.

Oh, there is shotgun games, trap, skeet, ect. There if I was going to shoot a lot, I'd want an auto. Make that a gas auto. After a few rounds of trap or skeet, recoil becomes noticeable for the occassional shooter. Probally for the big burly types too but they are not allowed to say so!

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It will depend a lot on where your shooting. The most favorite waterfowl gun I ever owned or used was the model 500 Mossberg pump in 12ga. I've used a number of different guns for upland birds. An old Browning double auto with a skeet barrel was poison on grouse when I lived in Montana. Up in Alaska I used an 870 special field, pump. I've owned a couple O/U's but never really cared for them, I have a Browning Citori in 20ga right now that I never shoot. My favorite guns? S/S's hands down. Presently I have several,but for the past 8 or 10 years I've used an AyA in 16ga for everything. Haven't hunted ducks much for years tho and there I would go back to a pump. Don't really know why except I have this thinking ducks like it better when they're shot with a pump!

I can't imagine where one type action would really be all that superior over another in normal hunting situtations. What most use are actions or type guns they like. The O/U's I think are just an in thing or maybe statement maker. They've been that for a very long time. Somebody sure likes them! The action opens to far in a blind and like a SxS, it doesn't hold enough rounds for blind shooting. Yea, I know all you need is one but I used to get greedy! The pump is less prone to jambing than the auto and not as sensitive to fouling. Some auto's don't work real well if the gas piston gets fouled out! That was never a problem with the old recoil operated auto's. The pump is also quick and easy to change a barrel on if you want. I don't know anyone that does, but you could. My old Browning double auto was fast that way and I did change barrels quite often. The Browning's safty left a lot to be desired tho. It was a small slide behind the trigger guard that kept the trigger from moving back, nothing more!

I believe the only real advantage to any is how they feel to you. A shotgun is a very personnal thing, it's an extension of you. Much more so than a rifle. I would rather an inexpensive SxS, Stevens 311, to any auto, pump or O/U for normal shooting.

Oh, there is shotgun games, trap, skeet, ect. There if I was going to shoot a lot, I'd want an auto. Make that a gas auto. After a few rounds of trap or skeet, recoil becomes noticeable for the occassional shooter. Probally for the big burly types too but they are not allowed to say so!

Good info, Thanks Don! I was always looking at the Remington 870 express super magnum for all around hunting. Do you think that's a good choice?

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When people have their own hunting shows they can generally afford "top of the line". For a normal hunter we use "what I can afford.". Yes

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When people have their own hunting shows they can generally afford "top of the line". For a normal hunter we use "what I can afford.". Yes

+1

THAT IS SO TRUE! Big smile

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love the over/unders hands down. there awesome! Thumbs up

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e4,

I'm not familuar with the 870 super mag but the 870 is a fine shotgun with a proven track record. I have found little use for magnum guns over the years, shotguns or otherwise. I use fairly light loads for bird hunting. Only the 16ga for a lot of years now. I use 1oz loads for everything but depending on the bird, adjust shot size. The advantage of to heavy shot or a denser shot pattern is lost on me. I shoot birds over pointing dogs and when I start ducks again, if I do, it will be out of a blind. In either situtation, extream range and dense patterns are not that necessary. My heavy loads in my old 12ga's were 1 1/8oz loads and years ago, 1 1/4oz loads.

The magnum chamber may definatelly have a place today tho. I don't think it's legal to shoot waterfowl anywhere with lead shot anymore. I also understand that the shot used to replace it is quite a bit lighter than lead. What that means is it does not carry as well or penertate as deeply. In that case you'd be well advised to shoot more shot in a shell, that means a magnum length shell.It will not make up for short comings in ability, it might make up for short comings in the cartridge itself.

Years ago we chose our shotgun based on what we were shooting. A 12ga with a 30" barrel bored full was a waterfowl and dove gun. A 12ga with a 28" barrel bored modified was what we used for phesants and a 12ga with a 26" improved cyclinder barrel was a quail and grouse gun. Of course then most of us couldn't afford three guns so we got a 12 ga with a 28" modified barrel and shot everything. Some of us could onlu find a 30" full barrel so we let the birds get out a little more. What of the 16ga? The only people that shot them were the poor people that couldn't afford a nice pump so they had to settle for some old SxS from some foriegn country. And what of the 20 and 28ga? Well those were reserved for rich showoffs and people that couldn't handle the 12ga, panzies!

In all the years I've used shotguns, and I've used a lot of them, one thing remains the same. More important than guage is shot size. And I have discovered that more important than which shotgun to buy, is which shotgun you like. You choose one you like and that fits, and you'll probally shoot it better.

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I really enjoy shooting and over and under................second place a pump and auto in third place.

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I own double barrel shotguns because I am left handed and most double barrels have the safety on the tang. Doubles are generally preferred because they are better balanced and consequently swing better. A feature that I like is to be able to have two different chokes. My current upland gun is a 12 ga. SXS choked improved cylinder and modified. The down side is that there have been situations where I sure wish I had more than 2 shots.

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