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PRVI anyone??

Ok, seems everyone has their opinions about how great nosler partions are and this boattail and that accubond, does anyone hunt with just a basic round anymore? I've a crap load of PRVI .300wm that I've been target shooting with. Any reason NOT to hunt with them? Good firing round. A little dirty for my taste. Accurate, easily putting shot groups in the size of a softball at 200 meters. Cheap at somewhere around $20 a box. And with proper shot placement... any elk should fall.

I guess the question is... are those fancy rounds just a little bit of insurance?

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You didn't mention th ebullet

You didn't mention th ebullet weight but as long as it's acceptable and I'm sure it is for caliber then I'm sure they would work fine. With that accuracy you should have no problem placing your shots where they need to go if you keep your cool. I use premium bullets most of the time but just because I like to, not because I feel I always need them. I've killed elk with the cheapest 150gr 30-06 all the way up to triple shoks in my 7mag. They all have done the job when placed well and with the price your paying you can afford to practice more.

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Thanks for your input. I'm

Thanks for your input. I'm shooting 180gr rounds. Seems like the general consensus is to use this weight for the caliber I'm shooting. I've had one suggestion to go up to a heavier round because it doesn't tear up the meat as bad. I don't know. I've only heard one person say that. Not going lighter, that's for sure.

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Cannot say I have used them

Cannot say I have used them but as long as they are not ball ammo and the shot is good they should work. We all have our specific preference and reasons for why we use what we do. As long as the round is legal, mushrooms well and retains its weight well it should be good. I like Remington Core Locks for my antelope, elk and deer rounds. If just hunting deer and antelope I use my .308 with 150 grain bullets. If it is a combo elk/deer I use my .300 Win Mag with 180 grain bullets.

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I've used PRVI for targets too

I've used PRVI for target shooting too, mostly because they are significantly cheaper than other factory ammo.  However, I'd get a round occasionally that would be way off from the group--maybe 1 in 10 or so.  Not real often, but enough to make me less confident in them for hunting.  If they are shooting consistently for you on the range, then I'd go for it in the field.

 

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Not that I'm a total cheap

Not that I'm a total cheap a.. but I am frugal and I don't have the experience with nor the pocket book for the higher end rounds. I guess if I was planning on taking something in the 400yd plus range maybe I'd consider a better "performing" bullet. I'm pretty confident in 300yds and under as I'm still relatively new to the mule kicking .300wm.

However, Walmart did jack up an ad in this past Sunday's paper and I did get some Core Lokts for $19.97, would've bought more but they only had 2 boxes left and didn't have time to run to other Walmarts before they could get the retraction sent out.  Big smile I'll put some of those down range before 1st rifle season opens to see how they shoot in comparison.

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That reminds me

That reminds me, last year Dick's had a BOGO sale on ammo in stock.  Since I shoot a 30-06, they always have ammo on the shelf for me.  Anyway, it was about this time of year (last year) that they had their sale and I stocked up a bit--bought a few boxes of Hornady Superformance for 1/2 price essentially and added several bricks of .22 ammo too.  Made out like a bandit, at least that's how I felt.  

I don't really need any ammo for this year's hunting season, but I'd probably buy a couple more boxes if Dick's had another sale.  Gotta keep my eyes open.

 

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I went out and shot a box of

I went out and shot a box of 20 of the PRVI .300WM and had decent shots. Practiced positions like shooting supported from a tree (actually the corner of the bed of my truck), sitting, kneeling, etc. Not so windy but snowing about an inch an hour. Anyway, decided to shoot some of the Core Lokts that I bought. I know different ammo shoots different but holy cow! For the first 16 rounds I could only find about half. I know they kick harder so was wondering if I was flinching that much or maybe a snowflake got in my eye or I just really suck that bad. I took a blue marker and made a big blue dot about 5" below the red dot in the center of my target. Shot my last 4 rounds. All were slightly high and the pattern was around the size of a softball. So what's my point? Those Core Lokts shoot 6" higher than the PRVI. And this was just over 150yds that I was shooting. I can hardly imagine the difference out to 3-400yds!! But I know this, I do like them over the PRVI and will go shoot at least 1 more box before 1st rifle for elk opens on the 15th.

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Same size bullets?

The PRVI rounds are much lower velocity than most other major brands of factory ammo (Federal, Remington, Winchester, Horndary, etc.), part of the reason they are so much cheaper.  And with a large caliber rifle like a 300WM you're probably seeing a 15% or reduction in the muzzle velocity.  Were both the Remington and PRVI the same size bullet?  That can also add to the differences you're seeing.  

I would use whatever ammo you have the most confidence with for hunting.  Performance is great, but the best ammo for hunting is the one you can place right into the vitals every time without a problem.  I read in another post to the forum that the cost of the ammo is one of the smallest out of pocket expenses you'll have for a hunting trip.  Even if you consider the ammo used for sighting in and practicing occasionally, you're still not spending nearly as much as gas, food, tags and licenses, etc., so don't let cost alone be your deciding factor.  Find an ammunition you and your gun like and go for it.  If you like cheaper ammo and shoot it well, so what.  

Like you said, with proper shot placement, it's just not going to matter what round you fired.:yes:

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Both were 180gr rounds. This

Both were 180gr rounds. This my first big kicking rifle so I'm still learning how things affect it. I'd fired off a bunch of Winchester rounds that kicked pretty hard. When I started shooting these PRVIs I kind of thought they were little lesser of a round but also thought I was getting used to the kick. Then fired these Remingtons I just picked up and realized that no, I really wasn't getting used to the kick so much as the PRVIs really are a lesser round. Now I've got to get back out and re-zero on Tuesday. Now that I've seen the huge difference first hand I'm liking the higher velocity, flatter shooting bullets in the Core Lokt.

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