My sister in law would like for me to plan an antelope hunt for her husband and I and I am looking for any help in finding an area that is public hunting or a reasonable cost trespass fee ranch in Wyoming, We live in Missouri and would not have the extra time to travel out to Wyoming except for the hunt and a couple days of scouting prior to the season opening due to time and finance issues any help on areas to start weather its public hunting or a fee ranch would be greatly appreciated any help such as rv parks close by or camping area and such along with hunting info would be great Thanks Doug
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Sun, 2012-09-30 20:49
Pronghorn hunting in Wyoming
Wed, 2012-10-03 14:56#1
Should be a few guys on here
Should be a few guys on here to answer that SB. I have yet to do it, but I hear it's one of the best hunts, in terms of accessible land, tag cost/availability, and success rates. Should be a good hunt!
Wed, 2012-10-03 20:05#2
Pronghorn hunting in wyoming
Thanks I hope to find a little help just a place to start is all
Thu, 2012-10-04 08:46#3
Wyoming is a great place to
Wyoming is a great place to hunt pronghorn antelope. Nowhere else can you find so many antelope! We like it for a fun family hunt with the kids. Great for them to learn and the hunting is easy, relatively speaking. No need to get up at the crack of dawn, pack in a spike camp, etc.
Here's some general information to get you pointed in the right direction when thinking about planning your hunt. First, Wyoming has a preference point system for either-sex antelope tags. This shouldn't be too unfamiliar as most (if not all) Western states use preference point systems to administer their limited licenses. The thing that is different about wyoming is they have several different types of draws, 3 of which are likely of interest to you: non-resident "any antelope" (I like to call it either-sex rather than any antelope), non-resident "special" any antelope, and the non-resident doe/fawn.
Non-resident any antelope tags cost $272 each and you can put in for 1 tag in the draw. Just like it sounds, non-residents who have the most points get the tags in the draw. Many units don't require lots of points to draw, but those with good public land usually require a point or two (but not necessarily). Non-resident "special" any antelope tags cost $512 each and you can put in for 1 of these too. I've never put for a special tag, but I believe you can only put in for 1 any antelope tag, you can't put in for both of these draws. Besides being almost twice as expensive, the special draw allows those with none or few points to still draw a premium tag because it is a random draw, not based on the number of preference points you have. Lastly, the doe/fawn tags are cheap, $34 each, and are also not preference point driven, random draw again, and you can apply for 2 of these tags. So in the draw, you can apply for 1 any antelope and 2 doe/fawn tags for each hunter.
Wyoming also sells their leftover tags (those that go unclaimed in the drawing process) on a first come first served basis. More tags can be purchased as leftovers for a total of 2 any antelope tags and 4 doe/fawn tags. Yes, that's a total of 6 tags for each hunter, if you want that many. As an out of stater, you can fill the freezer with antelope in just one trip to Wyoming.
As for where to plan to go? That's more difficult to help answer without more info. Are you wanting to hunt buck antelope, or just hunt for does and fawns? Are you certain you are camping or would you like to be able to stay in town? Do you need power and sewer hook ups for your camper or just a primitive campsite? How far are you willing to drive each day from the campground to hunt? These are more rhetorical questions to get you thinking about your own priorities for your hunt.
I would also recommend checking out the following link to help decipher the public land available. Unfortunately, this link does not show you the GMU boundaries (you'll have to discern those boundaries from the Wyoming Regs) but it will help show you where the public land is located and how close it is to cities, campgrounds, highways, etc. After you get an idea of general areas, you can begin to map the GMU's and then start a more narrowing your search down.
Wyoming also has several public access programs. Information on these can be obtained from the Wyoming Game and Fish website. Look for "hunter assistance", "hunter management" and "walk-in access" programs. These programs shouldn't be overlooked. Lots of public access is provided with these programs all across the state.
Wyoming also publishes their draw data so once you have a few units identified the odds of drawing tags can be determined. Again, the draw odds are published by draw type, so you'll need to check out the data in triplicate (ya, lots of work) to get a clear idea of how likely you can draw tags.
Lastly, Wyoming is a hunter friendly state. What I mean by that is many landowners are willing to let you hunt if you just ask. The regional offices of the Game and Fish department also have lists of willing landowners and can provide contact info to you for specific GMU's. Just because an area you like has a bunch of private property doesn't mean you shouldn't give it a good look.
Good luck with your planning. Feel free to ask more specific questions too.
Thu, 2012-10-04 14:08#4
Great reply and covers pretty
Great reply and covers pretty much everything.
My only question for you is are you sure on the "special" license? I've studied it quite a bit and there is still a preference point breakdown on successful applicants in the statistics. It looks to me like you are sort of buying a 2 year jump over the regular pont system if you pay the extra.
And I also believe a certain percentage of either sex tags are totally random. I've drawn the first try in areas I should have needed 2 or 3 points in the past. I think I read 20% somewhere.
Not trying to disagree but figure out if I have my facts right.
Fri, 2012-10-05 10:02#5
Good question about "special
Good question about "special licenses" and no I wasn't 100% sure. But since you asked, I just went to the Wyoming Game & Fish website to look for clarity on this. I had confused the "random" draw included in the regular preference point draw with the "special" license draw. Thus I thought the special draw was a random draw of a certain percentage of the available tags. Not the case.
It took a little digging, but here's how I think it works.
Regular Preference Point Draw: This works how we all expect, those with the most preference points get licenses first from the applicant pool. 60% of the available non-resident license quota are used for this draw. ALSO attached to this pool of applicants is the "random" draw. The random draw is 25% of the available tags in the regular draw for all unsuccessful first choice applicants. The way I interpret this is if the quota is 100 tags for non-residents in a specific hunt area, 60 of those would be allocated to the regular PP draw with 45 tags for the PP draw and 15 tags allocated for the random draw.
Special License Draw: This is still a preference point draw but includes 40% of the non-resident any antelope quota of available tags. Odds for drawing a special license are increased due to the lower number of applicants for the higher priced tag. Although I couldn't find this in the regs, I would assume any undrawn tags allocated to the special draw are re-allocated to the regular draw.
Guess the draw in Wyoming is more complicated than I thought. Whew. The good news with all of this complicated info is we have put in for our tags correctly and seem to get tags every year. Not necessarily either-sex tags, but we get tags and have a bunch of fun hunting.
Thu, 2012-10-04 19:14#7
COMeatHunter, That is an
That is an awesome reply, and the type of answer that makes this such a valuable website. I am sure that a person could figure most all of that out from the WY Game & Fish website, but your response was much more clear & concise than any government website I have ever been to. That can take a person a couple of years to really get that much information down, and there it is in one response.
I haven't hunted WY, but I do agree with your interpretation of the random drawing allocation in WY.
Fri, 2012-10-05 19:04#8
Pronghorn in wyoming
Thanks for all the info we will be camping and bringing my eleven year old son on his first western hunt we are not picky as far as units as we are not Trophy hunters the trophy is the experience we will have. So any units with good access and decent numbers of speedgoats for us to shoot at is all we are looking for. Any help on which units to try and draw would be great aas we have never been there. My son and I will be hunting with rifles and my brother in law a sidelock 54 ML so we will hunt in general rifle season. If we draw we will come out a couple days early and put feet in the grass to find the goats thanks in advance for the help!!
Fri, 2012-10-05 19:09#9
Pronghorn in Wyoming
Sorry I forgot to add we have no preference points so any draw that would be likely with no points would be a big plus as we would really like to go in 2013 Thanks again
Sat, 2012-10-06 22:17#10
Doe/fawn licenses do not
Doe/fawn licenses do not require preference points. Based on last year's draw data (and the tags numbers were cut significantly in 2012 from previous years) here are the units you can start with that had a surplus of tags, type 6 or type 7, after the draw. That is everyone who put in for doe/fawn tags in these units as a first choice got tags: 001, 003, 005, 009, 010, 011, 012, 015, 016, 017, 018, 020, 021, 022, 023, 024, 025, 026, 029, 030, 031, 034, 035, 036, 037, 038, 040, 041, 042, 044, 045, 046, 048, 050, 060, 063, 064, 065, 066, 070, 071, 072, 073, 074, 076, 077, 078, 080, 081, 082, 083, 084, 088, 089, 091, 094, 096, 097, 099, 100, 102, 103, 104, 106, 108, 109, 110, 111, 113, 114, 115, 116. That's most of the state.
The overall statewide non-resident success rates for antelope (all tag types) was 99.1% for 2011. That pretty much means there are antelope everywhere and most units have good huntable terrain.
I'm not going to tell you to go to a specific unit or area. You should determine that for yourself. But as the above data point out, it would be hard to pick a crappy place to hunt antelope in Wyoming.
The antelope seasons are generally 5-6 weeks long, so timing is pretty easy too. I would suggest skipping the opening week/weekend of the season. That's when most of the hunters will be in the field. If you go after the opening week, you are much less likely to run into a sea of orange pushing the antelope from hilltop to hilltop.
Spend a couple of hours checking out the data on the Wyoming Game & Fish website. Look at how many tags are offered in different areas, the services and towns nearby, etc. Then check out the public land link from above. Putting in some time will help you learn the areas for yourself and you will begin to get more comfortable with making decisions on where to focus your search.
After you've decided on a few different units/areas, then fire away with some more questions about those.