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Problems with target acquisition

Hey everyone!

Recently I've been so fed up with how long it takes me to acquire my target with my Pentax 4x12 gameseeker, that I'm considering having iron sights installed on my savage 110 .30-06. I can get a shot off much, much faster with iron sights, and am more confidence in my accuracy as well. The only thing that worries me is 200+ yard shots, and lack of precise placement of the shot on the animal's body (deer/elk) with iron sights, as the front bead would have to cover up part of the target. What are some suggestions for models of iron sights (XS systems?/NECG?) or low power scopes renowned for quick acquisition? I realize much of the issue depends on familiarity and practice with the scope, but I am yet to feel natural with my scope in the field, after hours and hours put in. Thoughts?

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Re: Problems with target acquisition

My first thoughts would be at what power do you have the scope on when you are out hunting? The second one would be did you have the scope set up for the way that you hold your rifle when it hits your shoulder along with the proper eye relief? Also do you use both eyes when you throw the rifle up to you shoulder to acquire the target?

I know that setting up the scope for the user is a major thing to do and not all people look through a scope the same way. I have a rifle with a 3.5-10 scope on it witch I have no problems with no matter how I am trying to look through it or the power setting. Where my brother in law can't see a thing through it no matter how he holds the rifle. The scope is set up for me and I guess that is a little different than what he is used to.

As far as open sights I love the Lyman peep sights but you give up a lot when you go from a scope to an open sight. Where you can place the shot with the scope on a 200 yard shot on a deer size animal you will cover the whole front shoulder with the front sight with open sights. Not to mention not being able to see through a peep sight in early sun up contitions.

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Re: Problems with target acquisition

Thanks for the response Critter. I imagine the fit of my current set up must not be up to par; I keep it on the lowest power, and use both eyes when I swing it up. It's not impossible to locate my targer, but the last thing i want my shot to feel like while hunting, is unnatural. As for the irons, I was thinking of something like this:

http://www.xssights.com/store/rifle.html

or even open sites like the ones on the bottom left:

http://www.reedstargetshootingclub.co.uk/pages/images/sights.jpg

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Re: Problems with target acquisition

Either of those iron sights should work for you but the biggest problem with open sights is that you are really going to start to limit your shooting range. What I would suggest is for you to take your rifle down to a gun shop such as the Firing Line and see if they can determine where your problem is at as far as mounting your rifle to take a shot. It may be as simple as a couple of adjustments to the scope.

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Re: Problems with target acquisition

I first replied in the other post. Anyway if you have both your eyes open mabe your dominant eye is your other eye . That is the way i am, so i have to close my dominant eye when first looking thru my scope, because im sure not going to buy all new left handed rifles.

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Re: Problems with target acquisition

Its tough to beat the rapid target acquisition of peep sites. However if your not totally fed up with scopes, you can get something like 1-3x variable. That way you can run at 1x (no magnification) most of the time, then turn it up a bit if you stretch the shot distance a bit.

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