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problems with kimber rifles

I have owned three kimber rifles and each one had a problem with accuacy. They either needed to be beded properly or recrowned. Yes they are very nice looking guns but for 1200 to 1300$ you should not have to spend more money to make them shoot well.I think I will go back to Remmington.

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Good idea! The model 700 is pretty hard to beat! I also have the same opinion about Kimber products, I paid $1100 for a 1911 45acp and that pistol was total garbage, nothing but failure to feed and stove pipes, it went back to the factory twice and they never fixed the problems. I sold it and went with a SIG P220 and never looked back. Kimber is crap in my book, they are WAAAY overrated!!!

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Steve,

Since you had the rifles crowned or bedded they must be good now!

I started out in the 50's with in fact a Rem. 722. Since then I have aquired a batter of pre 64 M70's, 99's, Brno's etc.

Now I have some Kimbers as I wanted the lightweight, SS and syn. They are accurate and have M70 type safeties that control the firing pin and best of all they are made in the USA.

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Go with the 700, save money on the rifle, accurize it yourself and put the savings toward a better scope than you would usually buy.

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Good idea! The model 700 is pretty hard to beat! I also have the same opinion about Kimber products, I paid $1100 for a 1911 45acp and that pistol was total garbage, nothing but failure to feed and stove pipes, it went back to the factory twice and they never fixed the problems. I sold it and went with a SIG P220 and never looked back. Kimber is crap in my book, they are WAAAY overrated!!!

I agree. Kimber is way overrated. But then again so is SIG. I bought a P220 in 2002, it's a cross-over model - parts made in Germany, but shipped over to be assembeled and proofed in New Hampshire. It says made in Germany , but has no German proof marks, only an American proof mark on the barrel lug. I have put almost 9000 rounds through it, and that thing does a failure-to-feed about once every 300 to 400 rounds. Unacceptable in my book, especially when SIG is toted as the end-all-be-all of modern handguns. SIG can't find anything wrong with it. Of all the pistols I own or have fired extensively I can honestly say that my newer production 2003 Colt 1911A1 Series 80 and my 16 year old Browning MkIII Hi-Power have been totally flawless in accuracy and function right from the start. I have over 10,000 rounds through the Colt and way more through the Browning and have never had one hiccup with either gun. Both will shoot as accurately as I can shoot too.

For rifles I would chose a Remington 700 again. I own a couple and have owned others and think they are a great rifle. Of course all mine are older than 10 years. Have heard Remington has gone to sh*t lately too.

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Re: problems with kimber rifles

Welcome to the BGH!

I just can't imagine paying $1000 for any factory rifle. I've had trouble with the last two new Remington's I bought. The first I never could fix and the last took a lot of bedding work but finally shoot's. I find that most rifles work well right out of the box although many need the bedding worked on. If I paid $1000+ for a rifle I would expect it to shoot without having to worry about bedding problem's.

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After my frustrating experience with kimber I found a very nice used Rremmington 700 7mm mag, I puiied the Leupold vx3 off the 308 kimber bore sighted it and went to the range,after a couple 5 or6 shots I was 2 inches high ready to shot a group or two the first group was a little under 1 inch the second was a little smaller , that is good enought for me.that was shooting factory ammo, not one of my Kimbers will shoot that good.

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SIG IS NOT OVERRATED! THAT'S THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD! Shock!
SIG SAUER has been a staple in the Law Enforcement and Military world for over 30 years now, Members of the Navy Seals, FBI, ATF, Air Marshals, Homeland Security and tons of State police agencies trust their lives with a Sig Sauer pistol each day. Wish I could say the same thing about Kimber but unfortunately Kimber is not widely adopted by Law enforcement/Military agencies because they suck.

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SIG IS NOT OVERRATED! THAT'S THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD! Shock!
SIG SAUER has been a staple in the Law Enforcement and Military world for over 30 years now, Members of the Navy Seals, FBI, ATF, Air Marshals, Homeland Security and tons of State police agencies trust their lives with a Sig Sauer pistol each day. Wish I could say the same thing about Kimber but unfortunately Kimber is not widely adopted by Law enforcement/Military agencies because they suck.

How many SIGs do you own or have you fired? I own 3 SIG pistols, all bought brand new and have put thousands of rounds through all of them. I have had more hang-ups with those SIGs than I have with some of my other pistols I own. When I say more hang-ups I don't mean they jam all the time or constantly. What I mean is that one failure to feed or one stove-pipe every 300 to 500 rounds is unacceptable from a pistol brand that costs so much and totes itself as being the best out there. I've fired a few other SIGs in the past too and have experienced similar issues with some (not all) of those guns. I say this in comparison to my Colt and Brownings that have many more rounds through them without one single hiccup. I sold a Glock G23 about 5 years ago that I owned and put about 10,000 rounds through, never gave me any problem. Those pistols will cycle any load, ammo brand, or reload reliably. I'm not blasting SIG or ripping them terribly because I realize that hang-ups happen with autoloading pistols in general at some point if you shoot one long enough. I'm sure that my Colt and Brownings will eventually give me grief at some point too or at least a couple times in their life. It will happen I'm sure. All I'm saying is that SIGs are overrated. I don't care who trusts their lives to them or who else uses them or how much people may pay for them. At that price those guns should be damn near flawless.

As far as Kimber goes I've seen two safety issues with a couple 1911s that were brand new under the glass at two diffrent gun shops at two different times. The first I looked at would drop the hammer with a trigger pull and the grip safety not even gripped. The second I looked at about 2 years later and the hammer would not stay cocked, any little jarring would make it drop. At both places and both times the dealers didn't seem all that concerned despite my serious urging that they not sell a new gun in that condition, it was a severe safety issue. Oh I suppose you could take any brand and find a small percentage of guns with flawed issues. It's just that the more you pay the less tolerant the consumer should be of flaws and reliability issues.

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Re: problems with kimber rifles

I own a couple pistols and one Sig 556 rifle, I have a all Stainless P220 and a P229 that I have used as my duty weapon for years and they are bomb proof designs. In one weekend I shot 1500 rounds down the tube of my SIG 556 rifle with no failures or anything. I have been collecting and shooting firearms for a long time now I own Glocks, Colts, Smith's, Rugers, Walther and Sig Sauer to name a few and I have never talked to anyone who has shot a Sig or carried one for a duty weapon that has said they are overrated. And as far as price goes, I can buy a new P220 45ACP for around $650 and a kimber is going to cost me $800 starting.

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Well I guess we've had different experiences then. Now you know of someone who thinks they're overrated. I've been shooting handguns for over 26 years which may not be much compared to others out there. In that time I have fired what I can only guess to be in the higher end of tens-of-thousands of pistol rounds. So I can't think of anything I'm doing wrong that would cause these hiccups (especially with the P220) at these intervals. The P226 and P245 are more reliable, but still have their temperments. I don't disagree that they are a good solid design, they are a relatively good gun. I'm not saying that they are not. All I'm saying is that my experience with SIG hasn't been as top notch or as excellent as some other shooters may have experienced. That leads me to conclude that they are overrated and I say so due only to all the hype and rave they get in comparison with my personal experience. Maybe other shooters think SIGs reputation is well deserved. I do not. Oh and by the way I haven't seen a brand new SIG P220 selling for around $650 since about 2003. I haven't seen any for that price today at least.

Of course I'm not talking up Colt either. Many of their 1911s that were made from the late 1970's to about the mid 1990's were crap, both in fit/finish/and reliability. The few new products I've experienced from Colt lately have certainly impressed me, including my newer 1991A1 Series 80. But there is very little being offered from Colt these days, at least where the civilian/commercial market is concerned.

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