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Primos can family calling NEWBIE HUNTER in ky

I am a newbie hunter. This is my 3rd season of serious hunting. I want to learn how to call deer in when I can't see them. The only calling devices i have right now are the Primos can family pak. I have only been able to get 2 fawns in using them. I get the feeling that I may be using them to early in the season? should I buy a rattle bag or grunt call? I am hunting out of a ground blind also. Another helping tip would be to help me figure out where to put my blind. I put it just off a logging road where I saw a lot of tracks and put a deer cane block in. If any one has any suggestions please contact me on yahoo at joshuaamosley or on here or via email joshuaamosley@yahoo.com. sad

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Primos can family calling NEWBIE HUNTER in ky

The can is a good call for bucks and does but no call works all the time. Deer sometimes will also circle down wind from where they heard the call come from and with you hunting from a ground blind will then unfortunately wind you. Rattiling should be used sparingly until the bucks are really getting into their pre-rut and rut phases then it can be very good with the right cconditions. For rattling to be very effective it helps to have a close doe to buck ratio (close to as many bucks as you have does). I liked to rattle when I can see an area quite a ways downwind from me because again they like to circle downwind to check things out. A grunt call can be used anytime but it helps to know which grunts means what. Short little soft grunts is usually a contact call that deer use to talk to other deer about anytime. Tending grunts (more aggressive, louder and longer) is when a buck has a hot doe in front of him.

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Thumbs up This is extremely helpful. so what i should do, since i am hunting in a ground blind, is face the way that the wind is hitting my back, when I rattle and call, and what is a good call ratio (ie 3 small grunts:30 sec rest)? I want to get really good at calling deer in, even if they see or smell me i'd like to know that it worked

any help is greatly welcome

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Always hunt with the wind in your face. You can try to keep track of deer that are trying to circle you if you can see hem first but if a deer is going to get downwind of you there's not much you can do about it. Try to picked them off if you can before they can circle you. I wouldn't do a lot of calling until the rut starts. Before the rut small short grunts is good and if you do rattle just do what they call tickle the horns, you've seen deer just messing around before the rut where they just barley rattle their horns together sort of playing and feeling each other out. When the rut starts you can really make some racket. bang them together with some force and twist them and grind them and beat the ground with them like hooves and rake them in the trees and against trees and your grunts can be more aggressive too. Just try to imagine your a buck fighting another buck and your mad as heck. Do this for a minute or two and them get to watching for bucks to sneak in trying to see who is going at it..

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Primos can family calling NEWBIE HUNTER in ky

No doubt about it, they will wind you if they get downwind Yes Will you be hunting with the bow or rifle? If you are using a rifle there's a good chance he will stop within good shooting range once he gets downwind. The bucks I have had circle me when rattling usually are within 50 - 100 yds when they get downwind. The younger bucks usually havn't figured out to go downwind they tend to be more interested in the sounds of other deer. In this case make sure you can see all around you and make sure a shooting lane is open directly downwind.
Bowhunting you need to be a little more stealthy. A general rule when using a blind: If the deer can see you from 100yds or further, no need to brush the blind. If you are under 100 yds, brush up you blind to blend in with your surroundings more. For bowhunting I would brush it in. Another tip while using the blind and rattling, try to have some type of natural barrier downwind of you(river, heavy impassable brush, steep hill, something that will keep the deer from trying to get downwind). Never hunt and expect something to come from your downwind side. If possible try using a decoy when rattling. Gives the visual effect that sometimes that buck will need to come in closer. Once you have spotted a buck interested in the rattling be patient and let him find what he is looking for. if you rattle after you see him he will pinpoint where you are and may decide something isn't right. If he seems to lose interest he probably is trying to figure out how to get downwind. If it seems he is leaving the way he came he probably senses something not right, maybe try to give him a few grunts when he isn't looking your way. He might decide he needs to check things out one more time.

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