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Pretty powerful.

I am not a politcal person but I thopught some of you may like to see this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGlBHyVeYU

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Comes down to one thing. People need to really think before they cast their vote for any political candidate.  We can blame Obama til were're blue in the face, but in the end a portion of the American voters were all too easily fooled by his wizardry and sales pitch.  It's really sad that most Americans couldn't see much beyond the pretty lights, fake pillars, and carismatic speeches.  And now in a time when North Korea is threatening nuclear war, Obama want's to work even harder to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons being maintained on our soil.  There are just too many things wong with him as president to even list here.

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I agree

WesternHunter wrote:

Comes down to one thing. People need to really think before they cast their vote for any political candidate.  We can blame Obama til were're blue in the face, but in the end a portion of the American voters were all too easily fooled by his wizardry and sales pitch.  It's really sad that most Americans couldn't see much beyond the pretty lights, fake pillars, and carismatic speeches.  And now in a time when North Korea is threatening nuclear war, Obama want's to work even harder to reduce the amount of nuclear weapons being maintained on our soil.  There are just too many things wong with him as president to even list here.

 

I must say I agree with this idea, that many Americans were fooled by rhetoric they heard, prior to the election. A man that does, admittedly, have some charisma and is a good speaker, BUT never seemed to have any substance to his "ideals" (not even worth calling ideas). There were no answers, simply double talk that might encourage some to vote. And vote, they did.

We never have been a Nation of freeloaders, NEVER! Americans were known to pull their own weight as everyone did have an equal chance to begin with. Seems some of those ideas, that a person needs to work for what they get and have, have been tragically lost.

I hope we find a person, who still believes in us, not simply politics and is able to show us the guiding light, once again.

I know one thing for a fact. Buying votes by telling people you will give them something is not even politics, it's the road to a different kind of nation. The kind of nation where everyone gets what they want, without having to work for it. You know that's not what this nation was based on. Now, please try to remember it. :thumbsup1:

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I wise man once said

That people generaly get the leadership they deserve. I fear it's all too true in this case.

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It is really sad to think that a once great country can come to the present situation we find ourselves in.

I agree with what the previous posters have said - there are a lot of factors that have brought us to this place.

One that is often overlooked and usually played down by many is that we have - for the most part - turned away from worshipping the God under whose guidance this nation was founded.

Argue it all you want, ignore it if you will - anyone who looks into the historical background of the founding fathers and reads some of the papers that they wrote cannot deny that  freedom to worship God was at the very heart of the issue.

And no, it wasn't Allah, Confuscious, Buddah or anyone else - it was God, the Creator of the Universe and the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord." - Psalm 33:12

Politics and Religion should not be separated.

 

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Religion??

jaybe wrote:

Argue it all you want, ignore it if you will - anyone who looks into the historical background of the founding fathers and reads some of the papers that they wrote cannot deny that  freedom to worship God was at the very heart of the issue.

And no, it wasn't Allah, Confuscious, Buddah or anyone else - it was God, the Creator of the Universe and the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Politics and Religion should not be separated.

While freedom of religion was one of the foremost priorities of the founding fathers I have a hard time believing that our nation or it's government was founded on any specific religion or religious values, christian or not.  The founding fathers knew full well that the freedoms they put in place would not just be for anglo christian white people in the new country being formed.  Native American worship was different, as were certain types of immigrants at the time and who would eventually settle here.  One of the principals that has made this country great was the fact that we have had distinct seperation of church and state.  Religion and politics should never be mixed.  Anyone who even casually studies history can clearly see what disasters and tyranny has ensued when politics were mixed with religion.  Does the Spanish Inquisition ring a bell??  If you read up on many fo the founding fathers you'll also find that they were cautious against religions control. 

Thomas Jefferson in 1814 wrote in a letter: "In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."

Even years earlier in 1784 he wrote the following: "Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites."

If those lines don't explain the views of at least one of the major founding fathers of this country then I don't know what does.

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