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I was new to muzzleloading last fall, and I still am, I have a CVA firebolt 209 and shoot pyrodex pellets 130 grns. and a 295 gr. powerbelt bullet, I see that triple seven came out with pellets, I was just wondering if anyone has experimented with it and was wondering if anyone knew a good load for this rifle. the load I have been shooting is good I think for a black powder.
comments?

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I guess nobody wants to share their secrets!lol

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2506 I shoot a T/C Omega the load I use is
two 50 gr. Pyrodex pullets, Hornady 45 cal. 240 gr. mag bullet, Hornady mag sabot and 209-4 Remington primer. I have tryed them all and keep coming back to this load. 1 1/2"groups at 100yds.you can buy your bullets and sabots wright from Hornady.The 209-4 Remington primers are hard to find. They are 410 shot shell primers and only have half the fire standard 209 primers have.209-4 primers will stop fliers if you have any.I could not tell any diferance between pyrodex and triple 7 except the price.

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I am shooting both a Knight Magnum Disc and a T/C Omega. I recently switched from pyrodex pellets to 777 pellets. One of the best things I have ever done. Clean up is much easier than Pyrodex.

As for a load on the Knight I am using 2 777 pellets and a 295 powerbelt aerotip and the T/C I am using 2 777 pellets and a 240 Hornady XTP.

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thanks guys, I guess it's just like any other rifle, you have to find the load it likes.

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My son shoots 100grs T-7's in his knight LK-93. I just bought an Optima and settled with 150 grs cleanshot ( just like 777) cleans easy no sulfur smell. I'm shooting 250gr T/C's shock wave bullets http://www.tcarms.com/mlaccessories/projectiles/swave.html
They are just awesome.

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150 grs of 777 pellets pushing a 180gr. Knight Red hot bullet. Past threw the deer and the 6" tree behind him. I like the ease of loading the powerbelts and how good they shoot, but just not crazy how they preform on the animal.

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I'm new to this thread, but it sounds like a good group of guys here. These days alot of people get tight-lipped with any sharing of good information so it's nice to find a thread that might actually help someone. I'll offer this. I have a knight wolverine and a cva hunterbolt magnum. I know the knight costs more but I actually like the feel of the cva more. I shoot 2" groups at 100 yds with 100 grns pyro. pellets and a 240 grn hornady xtp bullet and #11 primers from the knight. I shoot 1"(that's what I said,1") groups at 100 yds with 100 grns pyro. pellets and a 295 grn powerbelt bullet and cci 209 magnum primers from the cva. For the money I have invested(about $240)in the cva, I don't think you can beat the accuracy and feel of the hunterbolt. This money also included putting a bsa 3x9x40 scope on it. The only complaint I had with the gun was the barrel-band being thin plastic but they have already corrected this on the 2003 models.

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I have never nor plan to shoot an inline, just not my cup of tea.
However getting past that I do shoot allot of black powder, not pyro , I used too, but I find it seemed to foul much worse then good old BP.
As to your question, I wouldn’t see were an inline would be any different then a traditional style rifle. You can take two identical rifles, made one after the other and they will both like to eat different bullets and charges. The best way is just go shoot, put some time in with different charges and loads. You may also find that the pellets do not give you the best charge where 10 grains + or- will make a big difference. IMO this whole pellet idea is just more fuferawww gimmicks you can load from quick loaders just as fast and I think get a much better and cleaner burn.
just my 2 cents

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I loved it when I switched from pyrodex to 777. I now don't hate the clean up after each shooting session. I think the Omega makes clean up easier too compared to my sidelock, but the 777 definately cleans easier and I don't have to clean the gun the day I shoot if I don't have time. Won't rust the barrel like pyrodex or blackpowder.

That said, I mainly hunt Colorado, which only allows loose powder (no pellets).

You definately need to know the following differences between loose 777 and 777 pellets:
85 GRAINS OF LOOSE 777 POWDER = 100 GRAINS OF PYRODEX
100 GRAINS OF 777 PELLETS = 100 GRAINS OF PYRODEX

In other words the loose powder is "hotter" than the pellets. The reason is because if they didn't do that, people would be dropping three 50 gr pellets into a 150 grain rated gun, and they would be shooting the equivalent of about 180 grains of pyrodex. NOT SAFE. But since they downloaded the pellets to equal pyrodex, you can use 3 pellets. HOWEVER, NEVER LOAD 150 GRAINS OF LOOSE POWDER IN A GUN.

I personally shoot 90 grains of 777 with a 348 grain powerbelt bullet and hope to be hunting elk with this combination this next fall. I even chronographed this combo and it is equivalent to about 105 grains of pyrodex, so I have plenty of power for elk out to 100 yards with this combination (my self imposed limit with open sights).

Good hunting

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I shoot the knight, black knight 54 cal. one of the first ones to come out. MY loads are 100 grns prodex, no.11 caps, and 45 cal horonday hp/xtp sabot. Never had a problem with, this combation been using for deer.

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