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Please help me decide which rifle will fit me best

I have narrowed down my choices to either a Ruger M77 Hawkeye Compact SS/Laminate in 7mm-08 or the Savage Arms Lady Hunter in the same caliber.  I have managed to find both (at different gun shops though) to shoulder them.  I truly cannot decide which one to order in my preferred caliber.  My present gun is a Browning A-Bolt purchased by hubby for me, but LOP is too long, and I also cannot get cheek weld and see through the scope properly, even though the scope is mounted on low rings.

I like the balance of the Ruger and the small size will make maneuverability while in a climber excellent.  The 12.5" LOP seems about perfect for me (I'm 5'4", and taking into consideration my heavy hunting clothes).  I just don't know if I'm going to have the same cheek weld/eye relief/scope problem.  I've also read a lot of conflicting information on the LC6 trigger being a hard pull or having a lot of variance off the assembly line in trigger pull force necessary, and it's not user adjustable.  Haven't found a local gunsmith that will do trigger work if I got one that was sticky, hard to pull or had a lot of creep (all complaints I've read on this trigger).

The Lady Hunter gives a higher comb, same LOP, and Accu-Trigger (which I liked).  However, since not available in stainless as a production model, I would have to special order and pay upcharge of several $$$ for this option, and DH says go with stainless barrel. I honestly don't know though if it's worth paying considerably more for this gun or if I'd be just as happy wiht the Ruger in the long run, adding an aftermarket strap on cheek raiser if needed.

Anyone own either of these?  Opinions?  Please help me as I have to make a decision and order soon, as I drew a bear tag this year and want to get in lots of practice with the gun before the season opens.  I know I've developed bad gun shouldering habits due to trying to use a gun that was too big for me for the past several years before finally getting DH to understand that the gun simply doesn't fit me.  Rather than trying to have the gun restocked and made over for me, we are keeping that gun for his use and buying me a gun that suits a smaller framed shooter.

Thanks in advance.

 

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I like the Ruger better but

I like the Ruger better but that's just me. Love stainless and laminated stocks.

Your right about the trigger though as they are not usually vety good. I just bought a Hawkeye a couple of weeks ago and it came with a very heavy trigger with noticeable creep. I simply replaces mine with a better one. Less than a hundred with shipping and pretty easy self install. Have not even shot it yet but will soon.

The Savage is probably easier out of the box but just not as classy looking. Good luck with your decision. Here's a link to the trigger, I have 3 of them now.

http://spec-tech-industries.com/ruger_m77_hawkeye.htm

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http://www.budsgunshop.com/ca

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/57309/Ruger+223+Remington+Hawkeye+CompactBlack+Laminate+StockSta

Buds is out of stock in 7-08 but regular price is $681. free shipping and no tax unless you live over there. Just have to pay transfer fee to your local dealer. You can usually find a willing dealer from thier site.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/78087/Savage+11+LADY+HNTR+7MM-08

In stock on the Savage and much nicer than I expected, a little cheaper also and shouldn't need a trigger job. I like it but doubt you would get one with wood that nice.

 

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Anyone else have an opinion? 

Anyone else have an opinion?  I have found a good price for either of these at a local small dealer that beats even the online prices I've found, and I know I'm sticking with stainless in 7mm-08.  Thank you for the tip on the aftermarket trigger.  I will be sure to ask my gunsmith about checking out my trigger if I go with Ruger and replacing it, if needed, with the trigger you linked.  I know the Lady Hunter is pretty new and not a lot of places have it yet, but any more pros or cons on the Ruger?  I'm still leaning strongly to that one.  I did find someone who has a Hawkeye Compact set up with scope for his wife and he's going to let me check it out to see if I still have a cheek weld/scope sight problem.  I think that may be the biggest determining factor, unless anyone has good or bad to say about after market cheek raisers (just a strap-on one).

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I think both guns are great American made firearms, but with my preference for Mauser style actions and long claw extractors I'd go with the Ruger Hawkeye.  But that's just my preference.  My main go-to hunting rifle is an 18 year old Winchester Model 70 Classic Featherweight with CRF action that I've had since it was new.

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I know there are a lot of

I know there are a lot of Savage fans out there, but I'm not one. I've owned both and no Savages live at my house anymore while 5 or 6 Ruger M77s are still around. I think the action of the Ruger is head & shoulders above the Savage. I think, also, as an investment, as well as a firearm purchase, the Ruger will maintain it's value better than the Savage.

People like what they like, but I feel the overall quality of the Ruger M77 Hawkeye is much better than any Savage model out there. I happen to own two stainless steel Hawkeyes and think they are both fine rifles. They are both excellent shooters and both have good triggers as well. Good Luck!

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Been a long time since I've

Been a long time since I've looked at any new rifles. One thing I've always felt though is there are very few model's that are unsafe. And there are very few that can't shoot well enough for a hunting rifle right out of the box. There are ugly rifles! I love the old Rem 788 but there's not a single new rifle with an exposed magazine I'd give a second look at. The Savage's have come a long way since the old mod 110. Better wood, better trigger but for some reason on average they don't seem to shoot any better and they all seem to shoot great, even with that crummy old trigger! Two ugly things on the Savage for me, the bolt and the "Savage" name emblossed on the bolt, do they still do that? I also prefer Fords and dishwater blonds. Mostly what buying a rifle is about is what is appealing to you. We all have our favorite cartridges but discussing them is more about nit picking than any thing.

Find a rifle YOU like the feel of and looks of. That is as close as you'll get to a really good rifle.

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Thanks everybody.  Ack,

Thanks everybody. 

Ack, backorder!  I found a guy whose wife shoots a Ruger compact set up with scope, and she agreed to let me try it out.  I really liked it and decided I was going to go for the Ruger.  The gun shop had told me they could have it in a matter of days, but upon reading about their not taking new orders for the last two months, I told him to double check on that.  They are now taking orders again, but no one can tell me how long I may have to wait for it, and i really can't wait much more than a month for it.  Anyone got one they're willing to part with for a reasonable price???

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If you are in a hurry check

If you are in a hurry check out http://www.gunbroker.com/  As for a reasonable price that is up to you on what you expect to spend.  You might also want to check out your local pawn shops or even shops in some other towns surrounding where you live

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Ruger

I think it would be very difficult not to find a new Ruger anywhere.  It's one of the most commonly stocked rifles at any gunshop.  With Ruger pledging a challenge to raise money for the NRA recently it seems like they'd be taking plenty of orders on their guns. If they don't sell guns they don't donate to the NRA cause they've been adverstising lately.

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love the choice of Caliber:

love the choice of Caliber: 7-08 is a great round, 140's down the pipe at 2800 fps, you will drop anything within 250 yds no problem.

for your other, have many savages in the safes and rugers as well, now i will throw another into the mix for you, Remington Model 7 youth in 7-08, bought one for the ex-wife (got rid of her kept the rifle).

you can flip a coin, i would call heads for the savage, just have good luck with them.

Take a look at the Remington it is a good shooter.

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