One night I was talking to my grandmother and she had mentioned an outbreak of a certain parasite or something but anyway she couldnt remember all she remembered about the story was it was a certain disease found in deer and moose out here caused from the deer. I believe it is a parasite but anyway the story goes on, that somehow the deer infected the moose in the little town in ontario so the government went in with local hunters and other wildlife people and they shot everything that was brown that moved she says it was the biggest slaughter in ontario history. They said that every animal in the region was infected and they must shoot them all so they did. Piles and Piles of moose and deer slaughtered because they thought they might have a disease turns out after every moose and deer in the region was dead and all the testing was done more than 75 % were fine they killed them for nothing great to know the government wasnt sure before they killed them all. After searching the internet for a good hour for something about this I still have not found one thing on it I wonder why does the ontario government not want anyone to know about it now Im wondering why and what they are covering can anyone else help with this or does anyone know about this or has heard about it please let me know. Im not sure what I believe but I deffinetly believe my family exspecially my own grandmother lol I dont think she cares and would take the time to lie about something like this. You Have to admit theres alot more going on then we know about whether you wanna believe it or not.
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Sat, 2007-08-11 16:03
Sat, 2007-08-11 16:25#1
Atomikall, this was split from the thread in the southern forum. Thought it might be more appropriate here. Maybe someone from Canada will remember this and have some info for you.
Sat, 2007-08-11 18:04#2
Thanks Mod Have you ever heard about this Thats why I posted it I thought maybe you had heard something about it but I called her tonight to ask around the timeline she believes it happened and she said somewhere in the early 70s maybe late 60s.I can't find anything about it online just things about the reinto of elk and other things not relating to what Im looking for.
Sat, 2007-08-11 18:19#3
Well, I worked for the L&F starting in '66 then the MNR for 3 decades and never heard of such an event. I'm not saying there wasn't some small controlled local cull back in the days when the science of wildlife disease was relatively new but through those years I've heard all kinds of crazy rumors blaming the Gov't for everything from the introduction of friendly flies to scaring moose away from hunters with choppers.
The disease your gramma is probably referring to could be Meningeal Worm, (Paralaphostrongylus tenius--not sure of the spelling on this one) not harmful to deer but passed on can be fatal to moose and caribou.
Sat, 2007-08-11 18:35#4
Sawbill Do you live close to or around burwash? Im not saying anything against any government agency or anything. I think the MNR does alot of good things for our province they're great. All she said was it was covered by all the news networks and it was a very big story so I tryed to look it up and can't find one story about it and it seems odd. Do you really think a 66 y/o lady thats lived in northern ontario more then 45 years and southern for her childhood and teenage years (belleville area) would lie to her grandsons and just make this story up(I cant see it). I just want too read about it and what happened. I was wondering are you a gamewarden or retired one and could you maybe find out about it?Im pretty sure its true so someone has too know about it.
Sat, 2007-08-11 19:08#5
Maybe Grandma was just telling you a night time story when you were younger to get you to go to sleep Just kiddin'!
Sat, 2007-08-11 19:11#6
LMAO I dont think that one woulda put me too sleep as a kid man. But no this is recently at the family reunion we were talking about deer hunting and she said well do I have a story for you guys and she told the whole lot of us the story not just me now Im as curious as george.
Sat, 2007-08-11 19:49#7
I recall some horrendous tick infestations around the Burwash area in the mid '70's and one item of a moose taking on a Buick around the Killarney turnoff about the same time. That particular incident was characteristic of a brain worm infection but one case in years is meaningless. That animal was destroyed by one of the guys. Other than that, I'm not aware of any cull of moose or deer anywhere and definitely not in the Sudbury district. And the only places where deer and moose frequented the same area in any numbers in Sudbury at that time would have been south of White Oaks, Panache Lk , Killarney and some patches around High Falls, Onaping area .
Sorry, but I'm sure it didn't happen around here and truly doubt it happened anywhere else in Ontario. But my memory hasn't always been my better part either. Wish I could remember what is my better part is though.
Sat, 2007-08-11 20:38#8
Well Im just stating a story my grandma told me hopefully someone that sees this can back me up or atleast tell me something around those lines that happened and you might not have heard about it and I live just outside of sudbury.
Sun, 2007-08-12 06:26#9
I began big game hunting in Ontario in 1961, and to the best of my knowledge there has not been a government cull in the north or central deer ranges in that time. There have been a few local ones in the south - Rondeau park comes to mind.
I read a story once about a cull in the algonquin park area in the 1930s to try to prevent the spread of some disease - possibly that was the one you're referring to. Brain worm can be deadly to moose but has little to no effect on deer.
In the late '50s - Early '60s, there was a major die-off of deer in algonquin park due to disease (again I'm not sure which disease), but this die-off was natural, and ended at the borders of the park where the deer had been hunted and were healthier as a consequence.
If you go back to the early part of the last century, several jurisdictions found that hoof and mouth disease had spread to deer populations and ordered kill-offs to prevent its spread. This may have happened in Ontario as well.
Sun, 2007-08-12 06:33#10
Thanks for the info rick. I found alot of stuff on foot and mouth and brainworm just nothing in the burwash area.