I gave in i said i wouldnt let this get to me but it did. here we go

1. i'm a hunter not just a shooter also
2. my average shot on a white tail is 281.6yrds i hunt open corn and soybean fields
3. my furthest shot was 416.2 yrs with a range finder not a guess or walked off.
4.you've had great LUCK with your savage good for you but dont put down someone elses choice because you dont agree with it.
5. as for getting conned into something they dont need thats just hogwash, its all about choices and envy is no reason to put down someone else just because their 30cal will put your 30cal to shame.
6. as for not one of a thousand will be shot at anything bigger then white tail is such a gross understatment, come to our rifle club and talk to a thousand members there and i will gaurrenty you that 600 of them have gone or are going on a trip for elk, bear, moose, and the such.
7. and i keep hearing that they are a solution to a problem that never existed, well thats hogwash also, they are for people who want that extra power and we all know its all about choices. if we went with the thinking of close mined shooters we would all be using a 30/06.
8. the big bommers were made for people who like fast and flat. just like some people like the slow and heavy its all CHOICES.
9. i know guys that hunt deer with a 223rem and i know guys that swear buy there 45/70 are they wrong or is that ok because they are not mag, in your eyes?

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If I could only keep 1 rifle it would be my .338 Win. Mag. B.A.R.

I'm with weatherby here. You're (buddy0758) certainly making some outrageous claims, speeking in generalities, and going overboard with the hyperbole. I agree with weahterby, but I am not a fast flat shooter guy for hunting. However, I do like it a lot for farting around and shooting tin drums etc. at long distances, or simply shooting at the range. I have/had one of those, a 300 weatherby, but I prefer a 358 cal, any of them, to something using small ultrasonic bullets. It just gets too messy, and those can shatter. I generally don't like to shoot past the 2 hunsky point, and have really only done so a couple of times. Elk hunting in open areas and antelope (pronghorn or african plains game) are two types of hunting that one would have an advatage with a magnum cal. However, we must not forget the damage that 45/70's have done a long distances thousands of times in the past. Not too many people have the skill to shoot a deer from 400 yards with a 45/70 anymore, but it can and has been done. My point, magnums usually aren't necessary, and fatter, slower bullets are better, cleaner killers that make bigger, bloodier holes. Just my view.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I'd pick the 35 whelen for north america only, and a 416 remington if you throw in the rest of the planet, including africa. Take away Africa, I go with the 338 winny.

If I could only have one I'd go with a .35 rem lever. I'd still hunt grouse.

Model 70 classic sporter 270 WSM Got to love those short action magnums. It's absolute tack driver !

270. win
great ballistics
good average power nice caliber
good weight selection for big game and maybe some coyotes
100 grain to 150

Hmmm... what caliber I guess I'll go with .338 this time. That way I can have any cartridge in the family. 338 Whisper to 338 Lapua.

.35 Whelen