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civetcat, this is THE 2nd most ridiculous post you have ever posted.

Trample our 2nd amendment rights but afford Terrorist and enemy combatants all the protections of our Constitutional guaranteed rights.

Using OK city bombing is also ridiculous. Not one shot fired in that bombing, only diesel fuel and fertilizer.
You may want to check with your buddy Bill Ayers before you start making waves about domestic terrorist groups.
Drawing a connection between supporters of 2nd ammendment rights and these nuts is probably the most inflamitory thing you have ever posted on this site and reflects your true agenda...to inflame not debate.
Your comments border on insanity and you will be treated as such by me from here on out.
You should be ashamed of yourself comrade.

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civetcat wrote:
It all sounds pretty good to me.

I used to think that gun nuts who buy carbines modified to fire semi auto were just harmless Rambo wanabees. Middle aged men involved in a fantasy world. After all statistics tell me very little gun crime is commited with these guns.

So your statistics show very little gun crime are committed by "assualt" rifles, but you still want to ban them - insane.

Then when I search further I find that the militia movement, and the anti assault weapons ban of the 90s were the breeding ground for the second worst terrorist attack in US history.

Need clarification on this one - how as the assualt weapons ban of the 90s the breeding ground for the second worst terrorist attack? Did you mistype - this makes no sense.

Now I'm not saying every middle aged guy who feels threatened by a world he no longer understands and who is pushed and pulled by a society that is beyond his comprehension is going to go out and kill people.

Timothy McVeigh was far from middle age. He was a very young man - better double check your facts.

But I do find it worrying that people who are second amendment fanatics are also anti police and pro criminal.

I am sure you have data to support this theory because to make such a statement wihout proof would be, well, insane. Care to cite your source?

What about the fourth, fifth and sixth amendments? Recently on this forum I read of the gleeful breaking of thes amendments.

Again, please refer me to the post that gleefullly talks about breaking these amendments - if you can't, well, I'll have to assume you made it up.

The hate filled rallies of the extreme right wing complete with all these cries of "terrorist" have sealed your fates. You have no seat at the table. You are irrelevant.

Interesting that no city felt the need to add extra police to prevent violence in the event that McCain lost the election, but several cities did that just in case Obama lost - so you tell me who are the extemist violent ones?

I will await your response - of course if you agree, then no need to respond.

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Now I'm not saying every middle aged guy who feels threatened by a world he no longer understands and who is pushed and pulled by a society that is beyond his comprehension is going to go out and kill people.

What you are saying is that anyone who buys a semi auto rifle is an unstable anti authority anti social cop hater on the verge of homicide? Someone too stupid to comprehend society on your level? Just when I think you've reached the limits if ignorance, you amaze me by surpassing all expectations. Tell me civetcat, what kind of guns do you own? Let's delve into your psyche a bit shall we?

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civetcat wrote:
It all sounds pretty good to me.

I used to think that gun nuts who buy carbines modified to fire semi auto were just harmless Rambo wanabees. Middle aged men involved in a fantasy world. After all statistics tell me very little gun crime is commited with these guns.

Then when I search further I find that the militia movement, and the anti assault weapons ban of the 90s were the breeding ground for the second worst terrorist attack in US history. I'm talking about those right wing nut cases who bombed the federal building in OK. Read the prelude. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Now I'm not saying every middle aged guy who feels threatened by a world he no longer understands and who is pushed and pulled by a society that is beyond his comprehension is going to go out and kill people. But I do find it worrying that people who are second amendment fanatics are also anti police and pro criminal. How else to justify the hostility to the COPS program that I have read here, what is wrong with an additional ability to trace guns, limits on the amount you can buy at one time, or background checks for every transaction including gun shows. Are right wing gun nuts anti police? Certainly no way to get people to agree with you. I like the police, they wave to me and my kids when they drive by, we're on the same side.

What about the fourth, fifth and sixth amendments? Recently on this forum I read of the gleeful breaking of thes amendments. I certainly don't want people who think torture and murder are a good thing running around with any type of guns at all.

In the last election cycle the NRA and the gun nuts spewed a lot of vitriol. The NRA has given a lot of money to senators and congressman who have voted against my interests on a lot of things like health care, war, taxes, environmental protections, and financial regulation. The hate filled rallies of the extreme right wing complete with all these cries of "terrorist" have sealed your fates. You have no seat at the table. You are irrelevant.

This has got to be one of the craziest posts I've ever read. It does not deserve a response.

Civetcat I suggest you stop smoking that locoweed and get some fresh air!

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You know, even if we did buy the idea that the assault weapons ban was the "breeding ground" for Oklahoma City, wouldn't that suggest that an assault weapons ban would increase the risk of violence in society?

That post is so loopy and flawed that it doesn't even make sense to itself.

Besides, I tend to think that the "rise" of right-wing extremists was largely a media creation to build support for the Clinton anti-gun agenda. You'll know that Obama's getting ready to move on anti-gun legislation when the media starts preparing the battlefield by covering every gun crime they can find in minute detail in order to convince people that something's got to be done.

AR-15s look mean, but are rarely used in crime because 1) they're tough to conceal; 2) a 5.56 is pretty low energy compared to other rounds; 3) they're an expensive weapon compared to alternatives; and 4) they throw shell casings all over the crime scene for forensic analysis.

Banning assault weapons is pointless because it accomplishes nothing while infringing on the law-abiding.

But at least Civet has the stones to admit that Obama has an anti-gun agenda -- which puts him at a significant intellectual advantage over SoCo.

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Did you notice he has not responded to our shredding of his post. He must agree.

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Did you notice he has not responded to our shredding of his post

Been busy, you guys are down the bottom of the list.

Here's the money quote about those terrorists from Wiki

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McVeigh viewed guns as important tools for survival, since they could be used to protect one's food and other supplies from desperate marauders after the collapse of the economy. The three shared antigovernment views, including opposition to gun control and anger at the federal government

Now I'm not saying all anti gun control fanatics are terrorists but......

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So once again...if you believe gun control causes terrorism, why do you support it?

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Now I'm not saying all anti gun control fanatics are terrorists but......

But what? Once again Civetcat I ask what kind of guns do you own? Are all of us NRA members terrorists in your eyes. This left wing hysteria about gun owners is exactly what is wrong with the movement. Gee, Mcveigh and Nichols were gun owners so ALL gun owners must be nutcases. What would you say to me if I said all Muslims were terrorists or terrorist supporters? What if I said all Obama supporters were desciples of Bill Ayers and the weather underground? I think we would hear the hate speech lecture again I bet. I think the hate you have for anyone who dares to disagree with you and your Messiah is starting to come through. Two nutjobs blow up the Federal building(no guns involved) and the kids along with it and you want to lay this at feet of the NRA? I'm not saying ALL Muslims and Democrats are terrorists but........

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I think I answered the question what guns do I own earlier.

More important to me is what guns will become available as people start running out of money. I'd like to pick up,,, an accurate bolt action 223, a revolver, small shotgun like a 410 or 28ga. OId military rifle that they still sell cheap amo for, like a Mossin Nagant if I'm spelling that right. Don't mind background checks or anything else, nought to hide.

This am I saw photos of the cars backing up at the port of entry in California, nuts. My broker sold me bonds from munis in Alabama backed up by US gov for 8 cents on the dollar paying 6.6%.

I suspect by the time I return to the US the stuff will have begun to hit the fan. I hope you guys have some cash, you're going to need it a lot more than guns.

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