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Oh, yeah...I forgot. You can bet that the rules of engagement are already being tightened up. The focus will be on force protection and avoiding civilian casualties, not offensive strategy.

As you are probably already aware this is the reality now since Sept.

It is a long story but everybody should read it and understand what out military men and women are up against.
Four US Marines died during this battle as a direct result of these new ROE's.

From the story:
"U.S. commanders, citing new rules to avoid civilian casualties, rejected repeated calls to unleash artillery rounds at attackers dug into the slopes and tree lines — despite being told repeatedly that they weren't near the village."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/75036.html

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how can u not see what obama just did he said the troops will come home at the end of 2011? oh my that is just befor his re election that sun of a b@#$ i sure hope you the general public can see what he is really doing. This goes for most of the dems and republc they are both doing stuff like this all the time they are not looking out for the troops or us they are looking out for them and them only I say lets vote some new blood inn

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The news today is that Afghan President Karzai wants to talk to the Taliban. Can't say I blame him. Two days ago the US told him he's going to lose 100,000 troops and his air support in a year and a half. And he can't believe for a second that NATO's going to stick around when the US leaves. NATO went in there because its charter says an attack on one is an attack on all, right?

So he has two options: try to cobble something together now, or watch his country devolve into bloody civil war again a year and a half from now. Karzai asked for one thing in 2001 -- don't abandon Afghanistan again like you did after helping get rid of the Soviets.

And by the way, he's arguing from a position of weakness because the Taliban knows the schedule for America's departure -- he has to hope for mercy and reason from people who shot women in the back of the head in the national soccer stadium and blew up 1,500 year-old cultural treasures.

It's naiive to think that this will play in Obama's favor in the 2012 election. If he sticks to the 2011 schedule, a more likely scenario will be a campaign season marred by photographs of black-turbaned Taliban waving AK-47s over their heads at Bagram Air Base and the presidential palace in Kabul. If that happens, Americans will remember the guy who stood up for their honor in 2001 more fondly than the guy who abandoned it 10 years later.

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you know a lot im starting to think you are in politics. i have not talked much to you, iv seen some of your post and trying not to think that you may be S P if not please dont be mad just wondering thats all . j/k i know your not
just didnt think many alaskaian's new much of there history.

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I've been called a lot of things, but being called Sarah Palin is definitely new. Big smile Not me. I've had the honor of meeting her on a few occasions and have even hugged the woman, but I'm not her. I will say, however, that the Sarah Palin Alaskans know is not the ridiculous caricature the MSM has created. Until she went on stage with McCain, her approval rating as governor (two years into her term) was 80 percent. She's a smart lady, and a tough cookie to boot -- sort of Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher rolled into one. That's why the media looks to destroy her at every opportunity -- if the rest of the country knew what we know, there'd be no stopping her.

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Sarah...I mean Expatriate, Oops!
Maybe you should have titled this Obama's Afghanistan tragedy! Laugh

BTW Gov. I allways thought you were hot! Laugh Laugh Laugh

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We're getting off track here as I never intended this to be a SP thread. But the attached is a classic example of the frustration Alaskans feel with mainstream lower 48 media.

This picture is one reason Alaskans loved the woman as governor. The article's author describes her as wearing "white trash mommy gear" while shopping in a supermarket.

What Alaskans recognize immediately is that the photo was taken during a trip to Barrow, at the northernost tip of Alaska. Barrow's around 5,000 people and mostly native. I've been in that store -- it's the native corporation owned "stoakpak" that carries everything from beans to bullets, and grocery prices in Barrrow are outrageous -- we're talking almost a dollar an egg, for example. The "white trash mommy gear" is actually mukluks ( I guarantee they're not Uggs) and a traditional native alaskan kuspuk -- attire typically homemade by someone's native grandma (and oh, by the way, Sarah's husband has a Yup'ik grandmother). I guess if you're a member of an elitist media you can insult native cultures.

So there's the governor out on a business trip, visiting with normal folks in native attire, carrying her infant son. People like that about her. You could meet her someplace and she'd stop to chat with you, regardless of who you are. And yet look at how the media responds.

They don't care about how she cleaned up state politics. Don't care about how she got a natural gas pipeline project on track. Don't care about the 80 percent approval rating. What they care about is her "pink potato sack" and ugly boots.

http://elizainhollywood.wordpress.com/2008/10/23/pretty-woman-remake-sta...

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Oops! sorry i said that, how ever i like her and think she is doing a good job and those who put her down must have doubt about their own like the dems are worried about her and dave lerttermans life sucks so bad he has to put her down to make him self feel better. none of us has put her down as u kind indicated in the last post anyway pretend i did not even say that or ask! that is cool that you have meet her Thumbs up PLEASE DO NOT REPLY ANYMORE ON THIS
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She is the only politic republican or dem. that I can think of that can relate to average working americans. Something these elitests in washington as well as the msm has no clue to who we are. When I voted for Mccain the vote was for Sarah and against Obama not for Mccain.

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Back to Afghanistan, it's interesting to compare Obama's West Point speech to Nixon's Vietnamization speech. Aside from the obvious similarities in terms of the "we'll strengthen the Afghans so we can leave" strategy, There are a lot of other interesting similarities right down to the "how did we get involved in Afghanistan/Vietnam in the first place?" Both started their speeches with that question, to include the phrase "in the first place."

Like Obama, Nixon also took a swipe at the previous administration. Like Obama, Nixon included a passage about how seriously he took the situation because of the letters of condolence he was signing. Put the two speeches side by side, and you can see where Obama got his inspiration.

People like Obama think all our military people want to do is come home -- like they're in some sort of indentured servitude against their will. Why else would anyone serve in the military? They think of our troops as victims. They couldn't be more wrong. Yes, our folks want to come home -- but under the right circumstances. They want to come home victorious and having done what their country asked of them.

Unlike Vietnam, ours is an all-volunteer force. Our people deploy repeatedly and continue to reenlist because they believe they're in a higher calling. Reenlistment rates among deployed/highly tasked units are generally higher than those that aren't. What our people want is the satisfaction of feeling that they've been the sheriff that protected the town from outlaws. They love the country and will do anything to protect it.

What they don't want is to be fighting a pitched battle with the outlaws outside of town, only to find out that the mayor is refusing to let the deputies come help -- or to have the mayor tell him that he can't use rifles because of the possibility of a ricochet. They don't want a mayor telling the town that the bad guys will leave them alone if they just rein in the sheriff. They just want to do the job, kill the outlaws, and go home for dinner -- not spend a month out there with one hand tied behind their backs in order to look nicer to townspeople who would rather be the outlaws' doormats than stand up for themselves.

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