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Obamacare in practice

We are now beginning to see the first impacts of privacy of Obama's heath care plan at my company.  Last year it began with increased rates and less coverage.  This year all our worst fears seem to be coming true.  Many companies who still offer health benefits are now requiring employees who are covered to submit a full health profile to the company as well as required to have certain health assesment tests done and the results turned into the company.  If we don't then the employee will be penalised by having to pay excess money in health insurance this coming year. 

They say it's to promote a healthy lifestyle or promote health awareness. Nothing but lies.  Don't get me wrong.....I'm all for promoting healthful living and maintaining my health to the best of my abilities.  I already do that.  But, this type of stuff should be an individuals choice to do this, not have it forced upon them by the government through their employer.  Why does my employer need my full health assesment profile if it's not a requirment to do my job??  For what purpose? So that they can next dictate what I eat for lunch at work or how I live my own life outside of work??  What next?  Big daddy government telling me what I can or can't eat for dinner or what choices I should or should not make for myself.  This isn't the USA I recall or the country I recognize.  Looks like I might have to move to Russia or Europe just to get my freedom back. How much more are we going to take?  You can bet for sure I'm writing my representatives in Congress about this.

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Sometimes I think it would be better to live in another country for then I wouldn't have the illusion of freedom and tyranny would seem to be the norm.

 

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I just saw that Baylor University is using health care costs to justify rejection of any job applicant that smokes.

We're approaching an age marked by a resurgence of eugenics...where only those who are disease-free, physically fit, food-conscious and genetically pure will have full access to the benefits of society.  It's a classic example of left-wing thinking...people must be controlled, and individual choices must be eliminated for the good of society.

But reject a job applicant because he's gay and at higher risk for AIDS and see what happens.

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Sounds like you work for the

Sounds like you work for the same company that I do. We can refuse to take the screening of our blood and weight but if we do we get no options for our coverage and will be given the worst plan available. We must also complete a half hour questionair on the internet. Last year year this only provided a small discount and I declined to participate. But basically I have no choice this year or will be left with limited coverage and more out of pocket.

The cost will go up regardless and we have been informed the next two years will see significant more increases.

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It's getting like that with all companies who offer health benefits.  Same with my wifes company.  Don't get me wrong....I understand where there are certain occupations where meeting a certain health requirment is the norm such as when I flew commercially back in the day.  A 1st class FAA medical certificate had to be obtained every 6 months.  I understood certain guidlines while flying like certain eating requirments among the flight crew while on a trip (duty) took priority, in other words to avoid food poisoning of the whole crew each member had to order something different from the menue, nobody could eat the same thing, etc.  Certain public service jobs like firefighters must meet strict physical ability requirments, or those entering the military.  That stuff is understood and I can see the requirments for those occupations.  But for every occupation now??  What happened to choice?  What happened to medical privacy for the majority of Americans?  This is getting absolutely rediculous when you are monetarily penalised if you don't provide your company with your medical test results.

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Sound like to me your companies are full of crap!!!!!! Health care across the board is going up but has nothing to do with Obama care. It's because of the sue happy idiots out there. And people going to the ER because they have a darn cold. Our company also want the health assements but it's voluntary under certain helath providers. Our company offer 5 different health care plans and companies for us to choose from. Our health care was goinf up long before Obama was in office. I'm not a supporter of any president so I'm not sticking up for him but before you put blame on a certain person know that this was a problem long before he was in office. Also remember the president does not have the power like a dictator. If you want to be mad at someone then be mad at congress. They are the ones who make ALL the laws and poliscies, the president only signs the piece of paper.

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Sound like to me your companies are full of crap!!!!!! Health care across the board is going up but has nothing to do with Obama care. It's because of the sue happy idiots out there. And people going to the ER because they have a darn cold. Our company also want the health assements but it's voluntary under certain helath providers. Our company offer 5 different health care plans and companies for us to choose from. Our health care was goinf up long before Obama was in office. I'm not a supporter of any president so I'm not sticking up for him but before you put blame on a certain person know that this was a problem long before he was in office. Also remember the president does not have the power like a dictator. If you want to be mad at someone then be mad at congress. They are the ones who make ALL the laws and poliscies, the president only signs the piece of paper.

I think you're missing the point here.  My bitch isn't about the rising cost of healthcare.  I understand that prices rise over time and for various reasons.  My bitch is that our rights to privacy are being quickly erroded in this country, in this case because of Obama and his healthcare plan. 

As far as rising costs and prices goes I don't buy it that times are hard financially.  We live in a time when more money is being made today (by both individuals and corporation) than in any other time in history.  The problem is GREED.  That's across the board, not just with corporate CEOs either.  I think the western worlds idea of what poverty really is has dramatically changed over the years.  The average American claiming to live in poverty today still owns at least one automobile, has a roof over their head, has cable TV, has more than one TV, a cellphone plan, internet service, gets 3 meals a day, and goes on vacation at least twice a year.  Damn, I grew up middle class and with the exception of our annual hunting trips, we only got to go on a family vacation but once a year, and not always every year either. Back then our household didn't even subscribe to cable TV.  Most Americans today don't know what hard time are! My self included.

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I agree with you, WH.  I've seen poverty in Afghanistan.  My sons have seen it in Uganda, Kenya, and Argentina.  We have the richest poor people in the world.  That sounds heartless to say, but seeing people living in plywood or mud huts with dirt floors changes your perspective.  Once you've seen it, it's tough to think that people with cars, TVs, air conditioning, indoor plumbing and cel phones have it so bad that it justifies "redistributing" income away from people who worked hard to earn it.

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No I got your point. I like you didnt grow up with tv, phones, our family of 6 only had 1 small car and we barley had money to put food on the table. I personaly think we as american are some of the most self centered people on the planet. Really none of us really know what poverty is, of coarse we have seen it on tv or read about it in the paper. I completely agree that the thing wrong in this country is GREED and like you I dont think its just CEO's or even Government but most of the citizen of this country. As far as health care goes it's been a huge problem for decades. every year the cost of premiums go up we dont always see that as the company I work for absorbed it for a long time but now they're starting to pass it down to us. The reasons for the high cost is people sueing DR's for malpractice, also people going to the ER for non life threating issues. The ER is meant for life or death issues period. I just get so pissed when people start blaming the President for everything. Like I said I don't support any of them they're all liars and crooks doesn't matter if a Republican or a Dem they are all the same. Our President is just a figure head and spokes person for this country and thats all. The real problem and crooks are the ones in congress. If you dont beleive me look it up. they write all the laws and policies. the Preident can only sign it into law or veto it.Thats how our forefathers designed the Government. The only way to fix this country is for a complete collapes and rebuild, I hate to say it but thats the truth. We are not that different I just dont put my blame on a powerless man.

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I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, numbnutz, but you shouldn't underestimate the presidency.  Your view of the office is, in fact, what the Constitution intended. But over time the office has evolved as presidents all the way back to Andrew Jackson have expanded its power.  He has tremendous power via executive discretion...whether or not he enforces a law or HOW he enforces a law.  The Justice Department, EPA, cabinet, and other agencies all answer to him.  One example of this is Obama's decision to stop enforcing immigration law that Congress put on the books.  Another is his decision not to defend the Defense of Marriage Act passed by Congress.  Fast & Furious was conducted entirely through executive discretion.  The entire Libya campaign was conducted by executive direction without congressional approval.  And then there are all the "czars" appointed to direct executive agencies without congressional approval.  It could go on and on...but an American president is far from being a mere figurehead.

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