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Obama DOJ defends concealed carry in parks

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/16/AR200902...

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Obama DOJ defends concealed carry in parks

Chaulk one up for the good guys (NRA.)

It's still too early in the Obama administration to point out this one thing. Let's see what happens when it's time to appoint a Supreme Court Justice. Remember that the last gun rights Supreme Court decision was decided by one vote.

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From the article,

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But Interior Secretary Ken Salazar has asked for an internal assessment of whether the measure has any environmental impacts the government needs to take into account, Interior spokesman Matt Lee-Ashley said yesterday.

"Secretary Salazar believes the Department should put forward its legal arguments in defense of the rulemaking procedure, and allow the courts to reach a conclusion,"

Despit the cheery headline this doesn't sound like the policy is being defended. The gist of the article seems to be that they're not trying to overturn it this minute but are waiting for "studies" and "court rulings". You can bet your bottom dollar neither the courts nor the studies will be slanted in OUR favor. I think I'll wait and see before embracing Obama. I still smell a wolf under the wool. I'm not ready to drink the koolaid.

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Obama DOJ defends concealed carry in parks

I'm not seeing it, either. It looks like they're defending it, but then it turns around and says they're going to look at the issues the Brady people are complaining about. And then the article ends with a statement that sounds like the premise of the whole thing is that it's about people protecting themselves from wild animals. I think the jury's still out on this one.

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Y'all are trying to make a sows ear out of a silk purse.

But then if Obama's DOJ and interior under Salazar did support conceal carry in National Parks intelectually you'd have to get your heads around the idea that Obama isn't so anti gun as you'd been led to believe. And if so what other dogma that you've been served up might not be true?

The Grey Lady has an oped castigating the position and direction of the admin in today's paper. It's unsigned and so represents the view of the editorial board.

"The Obama administration has chosen to defend a bad rule rushed through during former President George W. Bush’s final days in office that allows concealed, loaded firearms in national parks and wildlife refuges. The rule is a gift to the gun lobby. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/opinion/20fri2.html

Take heart, they might infringe on the rights of criminals if they take up the Tiahrt Amendment.

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Y'all are trying to make a sows ear out of a silk purse.

But then if Obama's DOJ and interior under Salazar did support conceal carry in National Parks intelectually you'd have to get your heads around the idea that Obama isn't so anti gun as you'd been led to believe. And if so what other dogma that you've been served up might not be true?

Civet. Did you read the article you posted or just the headline? I'f were skepticle of the dems protecting our gun rights it's because we have pretty good cause historicaly. As I already posted the language the DOJ is using is non-commital and vague about weather or not they are going to overturn the decision. I will be the first to say here if it turns out as you predict I will be the first to joyfull admit I was wrong about Obama. I didn't post negatively, just skepticaly. I actually hope your right on this.

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The conceal carry was already indicated before the election, so it's no big suprise, though I'm sure it's not important to many, just that it wouldn't be sensible or logical to overturn it. Statistics show the conceal carry is safe, the law says it makes sense, the Tiahrt I wouldn't bet on.

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Civet wrote,

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The conceal carry was already indicated before the election, so it's no big suprise, though I'm sure it's not important to many, just that it wouldn't be sensible or logical to overturn it. Statistics show the conceal carry is safe, the law says it makes sense, the Tiahrt I wouldn't bet on.

Unfortunately the Dems have a past history of not caring about what is sensible, logical or statisticaly safe when it comes to 2nd amendment issues. If they did most of the stupid gun laws they have already inacted wouldn't be there in the first place. You wlll just have to forgive me for being suspicious, especially given the vague and non-commital language of this article.

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