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Obama admin about-face on emission regs?

Looks to me like there are some cracks developing in all of the climate change/cap & trade talk. Hmmm.... good thing, guess we're not so crazy after all! lol

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124214922088511421.html
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Mr. Barraso called the document a "smoking gun" that shows the endangerment findings "were political, not scientific."

The White House legal brief starts by questioning the link between the EPA's scientific argument for endangerment and its political summary, raising concerns about the evidence presented. It also warns of a cascade of unintended regulatory consequences.

The head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce's environment and regulatory affairs, William Kovacs, said the memo "confirms almost everything we've been saying on the spillover effects of regulating greenhouse gases." He said the document exposes the administration and the EPA to litigation if it finalizes the endangerment finding and begins to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act, particularly because it was drafted during the deliberation process.

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R., Ohio) said the disclosure of this document "suggests that a political decision was made to put special interests ahead of middle-class families and small businesses struggling in this recession."

Frank O'Donnell, head of the environmental group, Clean Air Watch, called the document "nothing short of a direct attack on the EPA's proposed finding.

"It is very clear from this that the Obama administration contains people who are trying to sabotage the administration's climate strategy...(and) there are a lot of knives within the bowels of the bureaucracy," he said.

Ha ha! Knives.... good, glad to read that there are still some sane politicians who have the guts to question "climate change." I've always believed its political rather than based on science.

Politicians are now realizing that cap & trade will have dire financial consequences for businesses, especially small businesses.

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There are two parts to this misinformation.

One EPA ruling on endangered species not being used to restrict climate change, so what, who said it would? We restrict CO2 with appropriate laws, not endangered species laws. This is common sense versus Bush's EPA. What it's not is a repudiation of the idea that CO2 causes climate change.

The second part is more isidious. It warns of ecomomic harm. This is not only not from the admin, it's also not from OMB, or any other agency.

Actually this was all the work of one person hidden in the SBA.

Just before the turnover many Bush political appointees had their jobs changed to carreer public employees so to avoid the chop. This is the work of such an employee.

To use this type of lie to it's best advantage it has to be repeated throughout the right wing propagand a machine in the first few hours it comes out. As people track down the source it is too late and this type of misinformation can dominate a news cycle. In this case it did for 24 hours. No news source is running with this story now, everyone knows it's bunk.

Most journalists treat info from Dow Jones with the proper amount of scepticism, and give it a thorough going over before running with it, in this case the story was repeated by the AP, which gave it legs.

Cowgal I've warned about lying before. If you post this stuff you are responsible aren't you?

http://www.grist.org/article/2009-05-12-omb-epa-endangerment-finding

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I guess I don't see where cowgal is lying. You really don't seem to understand the concept, Pogo -- contradicting your view of the world isn't lying.

The issue is the debate over regulation of CO2 as a pollutant, and whether that decision is based on science of politics.

I particularly like the concept of a "scientific finding mandated by law." I didn't know we could legislate science. Write to your congressman now and demand that they pass a law making cold fusion possible.

And the idea that OMB doesn't represent the administration? Somebody needs to tell OMB that.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/

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I don't make or report the news. Just passing it along. Tell the WSJ they're lying.

Pogo, you can call it lying if it makes you feel better, but we're going to be seeing more news like this as people wake up and smell the coffee about the bull they've been fed. Doubt is growing about all the "climate change" propaganda, whether you like it or not.

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Yes the Wall Street Journal lied.

Not the first time, won't be the last. Some good stories, others go beyond journalism. The whole story was a plant. A left over aparachik planted disinformation in a report, then all at the same time the R wing media picked up the disinformation part and said it was from the Obama admin.

Part of the trick is to all report the same thing at the same time, then reference each other. Then people on blogs still quote it for days, like this post.

The lie is that this info came from the OMB, the lie is that the OMB thinks climat change will cost business. If the WSJ had any integrity left it would plant a retraction, but they don't so they won't.

Actually it's these types of shenanagins that realy hurt the GOP and America. What if the R wing realy did have some very important information that flew in the face of conventional wisdom, who would believe them?

How's things in Barrow? Permafrost down past Nome yet? Guess the sea ice might reach Homer soon?

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OMG I just spewed coffee out of my nostrils reading that pangocat !!! Laugh

Keep em coming this is getting really hilarious. Laugh Laugh

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Pogo wrote,

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Part of the trick is to all report the same thing at the same time, then reference each other. Then people on blogs still quote it for days, like this post.

Yup. For once you have it right. Inadvertently, but right on all the same.

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You caught me! I'm the mole. Elvis and I flew to New York in my black helicopter, spent the night at Jim Morrison's place, got up early in the morning, slipped into the WSJ with our Acme portable hole, and planted that story. Then we froze time, went to all those other outlets, and used the Vulcan mind meld to convince all those other reporters to follow the WSJ's lead.

Then we reversed time and went backward, planting a fake memo in the OMB, then went forward to make sure it was discovered to back up the fake story I planted earlier. Or was it later?

Why would I do such a heinous thing? Because I own Halliburton stock, and my Grandfather swore an oath with Bush's Great-Granduncle on Geronimo's bones that we would keep the world safe for potato farmers. I would've succeeded, too, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids!

http://www.ubersite.com/m/82118

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Pringles! I knew it! I've been poisoned and corrupted by Commie chips. God why oh why didn't I just eat the ruffles!!!! Is there no cure??? I should've known!! We should call them Jimmy Carter chips. Their weak, fake and can't stand up to a dip!

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Usually when I see anything potato I know you denizens of wingnutistan realize you've nothing left, your ideas and arguement scream FAIL, so out comes the potato.

All I'm left with is what does it mean when someone knowingly repeats a lie.

ABC News.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/obama-adminis-2.html

The adult thing to do would be to say, "Oh my gosh, they fooled me, don't know how that one slipped by the WSJ fact checkers." And to try to be more carefull in the future.

The childish thing would be to just delete this post.

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The potatoes only appear when you go off into frothing, spitting, liberal Bush/Cheney/war/Fox/you're all lying conspiracy land.

Learn how to present an intellectual argument and you'll get respect.

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