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I spent a full Sun 2 weeks ago regulating the prarie dog population on a friends ranch near Cascade MT.I bought 2 boxs of Rem hollow points,525 rnds per box at $5.99 each.Now add fuel and the whole trip probably cost me $40,whats keeping you from enjoying this kind of outing?

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NONYA wrote:
I spent a full Sun 2 weeks ago regulating the prarie dog population on a friends ranch near Cascade MT.I bought 2 boxs of Rem hollow points,525 rnds per box at $5.99 each.Now add fuel and the whole trip probably cost me $40,whats keeping you from enjoying this kind of outing?

I too enjoy the dog towns. I was not saying that I for some unkown reason was unable to partake in such outings. My statements where more aimed at the "new breed". Maybe my rantings are misplaced. I will say this that I've personally noted that the marksmanship of the average hunter is decreasing. That was my point.

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I guess I might be one of the new breeds with a little of the old. My day and I use to shoot our 22's for hours when I was little,but then I only hunted small game, like rabbits and squirels. I was a pretty darn good shot then. I hadn't hunted in many years until a friend convinced me to go whitetail hunting last season. Well, with borrowed camo, my dad's win. 32 special lever action and a borrowed stand, I got a nice size doe. Now I'm hooked, so I got a Win. mod 70 30-06, and the wife gave me a Savage .270 for my b-day.
I shot the 06 for the first time last weekend. I was expecting a kick, and it wasn't that bad, but my accuracy at 100 yards was crap. We're talkin' 6-7 inch groups (with a 3-9 scope). I have deceided that I need to go to the range at least twice a month and shoot a box of shells to learn the weapon. Based on the way I shot at the range at 100 yards, I would never take a shot at 200-250 yards...that is until I get more confident with the weapon. Shooting an 06 is not like plinking with the ole 22 that's for sure.
My point is this. If I'm going to be a true hunter, it'snot about the gear, but the how the gear is out to use...ethically and proficiently. Once I get the .270 some glass I'll bust it out and see hoe I do. BTW, after shooting we checked the bore shit again and it was off (loose scope mount), so I'll blame the consistient "low and right" on that...for now.
John-

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You should be able to shoot sub 1" groups at 100 yrds with ur 06,factory remington ammo and a decent scope.Maybe you should invest in a bipod,I swear by them,wont go out without one.

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I guess I might be one of the new breeds with a little of the old. My day and I use to shoot our 22's for hours when I was little,but then I only hunted small game, like rabbits and squirels. I was a pretty darn good shot then. I hadn't hunted in many years until a friend convinced me to go whitetail hunting last season. Well, with borrowed camo, my dad's win. 32 special lever action and a borrowed stand, I got a nice size doe. Now I'm hooked, so I got a Win. mod 70 30-06, and the wife gave me a Savage .270 for my b-day.
I shot the 06 for the first time last weekend. I was expecting a kick, and it wasn't that bad, but my accuracy at 100 yards was crap. We're talkin' 6-7 inch groups (with a 3-9 scope). I have deceided that I need to go to the range at least twice a month and shoot a box of shells to learn the weapon. Based on the way I shot at the range at 100 yards, I would never take a shot at 200-250 yards...that is until I get more confident with the weapon. Shooting an 06 is not like plinking with the ole 22 that's for sure.
My point is this. If I'm going to be a true hunter, it'snot about the gear, but the how the gear is out to use...ethically and proficiently. Once I get the .270 some glass I'll bust it out and see hoe I do. BTW, after shooting we checked the bore shit again and it was off (loose scope mount), so I'll blame the consistient "low and right" on that...for now.
John-

John,
If you don't know how, you should get someone to check you scope and mounting system. Just to ensure that everything is put together properly. I'm encouraged to see that you realize the necissity to practice and become proficient with your weapon. I wish more would follow your example.

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Welcome, drum002. I used to live in Raleigh (well, Apex, actually) and belonged to the Durham R&P club. They have (I hope they still have it, this was a dozen years ago) a really nice range out West of town.

Scopes need to be well and truly mounted or they're worse than no sights at all. Take the gun to a good 'smith or do a lot of reading-up, buy the tools you need, and get that scope mounted properly! Back when I lived there, there were a couple of places that were good shops to buy from and good places to get 'smithing work done. In order of preference, I'd recommend:

1. Young Guns, in Apex
2. Hill's, South of downtown Raleigh
3. Colonial Gun Shop, out in Hillsborough (used to go out there for my muzzleloading stuff)

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don,
I live about 10min. from Young Guns, so I'll head over there and have them take a look at the 06, and the Savage after I get the glass. Eventhough the recoil wasn't that bad, I'm considering getting a recoil pad. I've heard good things about the Limbsaver pads and will probably give one of them a try.

While at the range a guy was next to me, sighting in his 06. He was older and seemed nice enough. The poor guy only took one shot and left. He must not have had his rifle properly seated on his shoulder, because right after the shot, he had a 1' cut above his eye with the circumference of his scope. It looked like a nasty schope bite. He was embarassed as hell, but it looked like it hurt. My point is, if you don't know pretty much anything about shooting, why buy a rifle with all that power? Why not start with something a little smaller and get profecient first, then move up?

BTW, I had a major type-o on my last post. I did not mean bore shi@, but rather the bore sight.

Take care,
John-

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You can get a scope cut like that from any rifle when you mount the scope back too far before you fire it the first time,I heard that from "some guy" he said he did it one time on his 7mag and has a nice scar to prove it.I have shot a Rem 8 mag with the limbsaver pad on it and it worked very well,anything that is going to make you more comfortable with the rifle is going to improve your accuracy,get the pad and a bipod,you wont regret it.

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I was planning on doing most of my hunting from a treestand that has a shooting rail (when facnig away from the tree). I don't think a bipod would be useful in that situation, however when using it at the range, I bet it's great. Unfortunately here in NC, you can't hunt with a rifle unless you're 8ft. off of the ground (deer at least). Which prety much negates the bi pod for hunting.
John-

BTW, any recommendations of brand, or are they all pretty much the same?

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Re: Whatever happened to?
shatodavis wrote:
I was wondering whatever happened to fun guns.

I think this is purely subjective. There's lots of fun stuff around today from big to small:

17HMR and 17M2 (levers, revolvers, auto-loaders, bolts, and single shots OH MY ;-))
500S&W (definitely for reloaders)
204 Ruger

Plus its post ban, which means high cap clips are back. Yeah! 25+ round clips again for the 10/22 is a good thing.