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NOT STIFF ENOUGH!!!!

An Oregon man and son get 4 "seasons" in jail and loose there hunting privlages for life, in my opion thats not good enough. I would like to see $25,000 in fines, 4 years in jail and lose of hunting for life. if these scum bags were doing illegally before whats gonna stop them?

http://www.kgw.com/news/Lane-Co-deer-poachers-to-spend-next-4-hunting-seasons-in-jail-125504128.html

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I believe they did get big

I believe they did get big fines. Father got $25,000 and son got $42,000. They got jail time durning the deer season for three years and community service. Loss of hunting priviledges for life. Another person in the same group got 3 yrs for idenity theft. They caught them because of the ideenity theft is what I'd heard.

I suppose some think this will stop them, not a chance! They only got caught because the person that got it for idenity theft was buying tags in his ex-girl friends name. Fish and game sent her a notice that she needed to send in some teeth and she didn't know what they were talking about. She went into the office to find out what was going on. Had that not happened, they would not have been caught.

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Based on the article and the

Based on the article and the original post I was inclined to agree that the penalty was very light for the crimes committed and the number of deer killed. If the the fines trul did go into the tens of thousands then I would say that is enough. The thing is do any of these fines ever really get paid or not? I have read of many similar but have always wondered about the folle up. Do they go to jail if they don't pay up? And as has been said the loss of hunting privelages for someone who has no regard for the law is only a minor inconvenience.

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I think it's kind of a

I think it's kind of a creative sentence.  Put them in jail and take away their hunting seasons?  Great!!!

That way, they can't slip off to some other state and try the same things.  It's hitting them where it hurts.

Especially if they did get fined that much.  No fine would be too great for poaching, but it's a start.

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I didnt see anything in the

I didnt see anything in the story about a fine, If they did get fined then great, but i feel the jail sentance is to lean, i would of like to seen 4 full years in jail, with the fine and loss of hunting for life. but again they werent doing it legaly before and i dought they ever will. the state really needs to send a message to these criminal.

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Fines and jail mean nothin

I'm not so sure anyone pays off their fines. Once they are out of jail they are finished. I know a guy here that got 5yrs and a huge fine for tax evasion. He served the time but hasn't paid a dime on the fine. All their income is in his wifes name, he, in theory, makes nothing so they don't bother him much. I know another guy that got it for a felony. Served his time but still has a bunch of guns. He tells pretty much anyone that will listen about them. The state police and county sherrif know about the guns and wrote him for it. The county attourny dropped it. The guys felony involved fireing a gun at someone in a drug deal gone bad is what I'd heard.

The poachers are gonna poach again is my bet. The only way they'll be stopped is life in prison. I doubt giving them 4 yrs or 40 yrs would make a difference to them. The problem is, other than the identity theift on one guy turned in by an ex girl friend, none of this haooens. They were very good at what they were doing.

Our system is so full of holes its pathetic. Much to many laws to protect the criminal from the victim!

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You know they did klose their

You know they did klose their hunting privledges for life, but they were not hunters.  I do not see why they have to spend the next 4 deer seasons in jail, poachers do not need a season top kill deer.  Why not just throw them in jail for a year or two and really let them rot for awhile, maybe they will think about pulling that trigger on a deer next time, because once a poacher always a poacher.  Theuy will just find another way to kill their deer and be way more careful about how they do it.

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Hello everyone! New guy here,

Hello everyone! New guy here, this is my first post...I would have to agree that the sentence was very light. They admitted to killing over 300 deer in 5 years. Along with admitting that it has been a family tradition passed on father to son. So this has been going on for years!!! I think some good long prison time, heafty fine, and community service working with the Fish and Wildlife, lose of hunting privlages and loss of gun rights for life would be more suitable if you ask me. 

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Welcome to the site

Welcome to the site Shortbus!  Stick around awhile, and share some photos and stories!  Lots of information on here to be found and shared!

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Welcome

Welcome to BGH.

 

If you guys haven't heard, the father and son are not going to jail, jail is to crowded and only room for violent crimes. This father and son are first time offender's so they got grounded at home for 90 days.

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I just read that story today

I just read that story today on KGW.com and couldn't beleave it. Well i guess being here in Oregon I can beleave it. This is kinda stupid. Atleast they're under house arrest with ankle trackers instead of just being able to roam free to kill more deer or elk or whatever else they wanted to.

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