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Not Happy with bullet

Used a 180 gr. fail safe bullet from a 300 win mag.on Elk in Colorado this year. Did kill a nice Bull but not happy with the bullet that was recovered. Any sugg.?

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Well.....It does look like it did its Job....You have the elk in hand not running off wounded....so whats the problem? Maybe if you told us what the problem with performance was we could better help you.

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Can you post a pic of the recovered bullet ? Would be very interesting to see it.

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Yes I will post a pic of the bullet,. just did'nt expand the way I thougt it would..Killed at about 125 yds.Will post pic bt Tue.Broter has camera.

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Fail Safe

I think I know what it's going to look like. I've recovered a few from deer and they don't expand a lot. I don't think they're designed to. Frontal area is not very big after expansion and sometimes the "petals" break off. They seem to penetrate well but don't seem to deliver the "punch" when they hit the animal. I don't use them for hunting anymore.

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Hope you're not expecting the Fail Safe bullet to have a pretty mushroom shape because they were designed for massive penetration first and foremost. The bullet was never designed with expansion / high-shock as its main goal - crushing through tough bone was the objective - not expansion.

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The Fail Safe is designed to go through feet of animal instead of inches and not lose any weight in the process. I personally think they are too much for elk and deer. You kind of want your bullet to flatten out and come apart just a little for more energy transfer. I'm surprised you even recovered the slug. I recovered a slug out of my bull this year that was the prettiest mushroom I've ever seen. 180 grain trophy bonded bearclaw. Still too much I think. I really like the Nosler accubond. The top comes apart and shocks the heck out of internal organs and the back end mushrooms and penetrates a long ways. Also very accurate.
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Pic of bullet recovered 180 gr failsafe 300 win mag.

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And the Barnes Triple X 180 gr is much the same. Here's one also fired from a 300 Win mag (What you see peeled back is the entire top, not the "mushroom effect". The side you don't see is smooth.

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Looks like his petal's broke off. The bullet still did what it was supposed to do tho. What is that? Close to or above 90% weight retention? If your not happy with that, try another bullet. Confidence play's a major role here!

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Hornady Interbonds is the way to go Thumbs up

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