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I don't worry too much about what the locals say or think. Fact is if it weren't for out of staters, Colorado residents would mostly starve to death. Texans bring many thousands of dollars to Colorado's economy. I have mostly found the people from the southern part of the state (where I do most of my hunting and fishing) to be very friendly and gracious. I do think we are getting screwed when it comes to the cost difference between the licenses. The land is mostly federally owned (owned by all US citizens). If non-residents sat one year the Colorado Division of Wildlife would go bankrupt.

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Location: FT Worth Tx
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so Im a proud owner of a Weatherby Vangard 300 Win mag and an elk tag EF011O4R! neener! The Weatherby has an nikon prostaff 3-9X40 with the drop comp.reticel. I will be shooting the win XP3's in a 180 gr. looks like a good round that will have almost 100% wght retention and great bullistics.
Thanks for all yall's time

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Location: Greeley, CO
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Sounds like a perfect combination!

Any reason inparticular you do not fire the Weatherby ammo? Just wondering if there is something else out there, but I really have had incredible luck with it and now sware by the brand. Maybe it is me, since I really can't find any other brand for my hand cannon! (.340 w.m. Thumbs up ) Has a great range and I can get them anywhere from 180-250 grain. Though I think the 180 must be a myth anymore, as I can never find them in that size. Pretty much use the 200 grain for deer and elk and that seems to do a fine job!

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Muzzle 100yds. 200yds. 300yds. 400yds. 500yds.
ENERGY FT.LBS.
3597 3176 2797 2455
VELOCITY FT./ SEC.
3000 2819 2646 2479 2318 2163
50yds. TRAJECTORY
0.2 0 -2.9 -10.7
1.4 0 -6.4 -18.5 -37 zeroed at 200yds.
Ok so that didn't work like I had thought! This info came from winchester's web site it's for the 180gr. XP3 in 300 win mag like I said looks pertty good on paper. what do yall think??

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Pretty good.

Here is the same Weatherby type BST load I use, but in .300 180 grain BST (Nosler Ballistic Tip & looks to be zeroed at 300)

Energy:
(Muzzle 100, 200, 300, 400 & 500)
4223 3721 3271 2867 2504 2178

Velocity:
3250 3051 2806 2676 2503 2334

Drop:
2.8 3.6 0.0 -8.4 -22.4

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Location: KC,MO
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When I first read this post I thought "what an idiot!" who gives you the right to think every Texan or out of stater is buying all the tags and getting all the elk? but I thought maybe your just mad at a certain situation. I'm now an out of stater. Having grown up in Colorado as have the last of 4 generations I now live out of the great state of Colorado. I remember dogging Texans and Californians and "out of staters" when I hunted there. I think my main problem w/ the "other" hunters is lack of experience. I wholly agree they sure can mess up a well planned out trip. They get excited and hoot and holler etc. But its just rookie excitement I guess? Colorado gets ALOT of revenue from these out of staters and since Colorado gets the majority of its income from tourists, you got to give them a little room. Its too bad but its been a fact for a long long time. I dont like rookies messing up my hunt but I wouldnt want to pay all the extra in taxes to make the state operate either. I suggest you do like I do and hunt the places that are too hard for the rookies or not known about like any true Coloradan Mtn Man would! I dont think its going to change ever sad

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Ask your questions. Here on the forum and when you get to your area. I find most locals pretty friendly to tell you where they have seen the game. Just remember they are being gracious to you, It's not something they owe you.

I probably see just as many resident hunters do stupid things as I do Non-Res. Ride ATV's where they are not supposed to, camp on the water holes, etc. Just remember we all share the forest. And the residents probably pay the taxes to take of the herds more so than the Non-Res. It's state money that pays crop damage to local farmers, It's state money that runs winter feeding programs, The DOW is a state agency, salaries are paid by state revenue. Although we do see some federal revenue, Usually in the form of matching funds for habitat projects. Which increase how many animals the land can support. So either the state or private money has to put up the 1st half of the money. Most of the roads you use to access back country areas will be State or County roads, which residents pay for. The emergency services you might need are paid for staffed by and maintained by residents. This is also true of urban vs rural areas. You don't see a lot of money coming from Denver to support Mayflower Colorado, or from Salt Lake City to support Dutch John Utah. So is a resident from Denver any more vested in the herds than a non-resident from Texas? In areas with lots of public land, there is no property tax on public land, there is no sale tax base, so the local residents pay a higher property tax and county tax to support the rural life style.

It's always discouraging to get to where you want to hunt and find somebody else in my favorite spot. But I can deal with that. I don't own the forest. I can not deal with slobs, who leave garbage, leave ruts from ATV's, chase animals out of the area because they unaware they are even here. The attitude of we don't have to be quite in this canyon, because we are hunting the next one over, doesn't mean somebody else isn't hunting this canyon. The hunter who walks to far and gets lucky and harvest an animal 7 miles from a road, and then thinks I'm not very friendly because I don't want to stop hunting to haul his elk on my horses. Although they are welcome to ask, If I've got my elk down and we are just hanging around in the mountains another day before heading home. I'm usually happy to help out. Just don't judge me if I say no.

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Location: KC,MO
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Well said painted pony! thx

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Regarding otc cow tags I dont know. I go for the draw and get a tag 2 out of 3 times consistently. I guess it depends on the demands of the location you want?
DOW has survey info out regarding their elk counts and the harvests in the areas. Its a good read and excellent way to figure out where to try. This years info wont be around for a while but you can read the previous years info.
There are lots of elk out there. Good luck finding a spot that suites you.

The .300 Win is a good choice but your 30-06 is pretty close to that so why not go a little bigger or smaller? I've hunted elk w/ a .270 for years and now am trying the Rem .338 Ultra Mag(for longer distances). That .340 and .325 are good calibers getting rave reviews also. I do notice that finding ammo for mine is getting hard but since I reload I'm ok as long as I dont forget to bring it w/ me on the hunt! Brick Wall,) That(ammo) might be a consideration? w/ the Weatherbys not always as available from what I have seen.
Best of luck and I hope you hunt is a memorable one

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Location: FT Worth Tx
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thanks for Yalls help. I didn't get an elk this time but learned alot about myself and about hunting elk. I don't think that I could have asked for better camp mates. they were verry helpfull. That pork chop was the best I have ever ate. any way thanks, and i hope I didn't drive every one crazy with all the questions.

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