i m thinking of bear hunting this spring the problem is i havnt seen a bear in the last 5 years i ve been going afeild i live in sw WA and my dad used to guid bear hunters so you think he could be some help but he took the easy way out and used houds charged 100 bucks only if they got a bear its neat i ve seem many pictures but back on track i m looking to bear hunt and do feel as if i could go out and produce a bear are there some secrets to get bear in rang? fill me in thanks a lot Wcox
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Mon, 2005-12-26 00:35
Mon, 2005-12-26 12:05#1
wish i could help but don't know squat about hunting them without hounds.
Mon, 2005-12-26 15:53#2
Can you use bait where you are?
Tue, 2005-12-27 16:49#3
i will have to check and get back to you on the bait
Tue, 2005-12-27 19:03#4
With out hound's
We call that stump hunting find a trail and sit and hope they come though
You can try calling them as you sit there
Wayne carlton make's a nice bear call
Thu, 2005-12-29 11:37#5
I can tell you, here in Washington State it is not legal to use bait or hounds on either bear or cougar anymore. The Tree-huggin, bambi-lovin, animal-rights groups convinced everyone about 5 years ago to vote it out.
That is starting to change a little now though. There have been so many problems with the cougars on the east side of the state that they are going to allow a few permit hunts with hounds next year.
Otherwise, we're stuck to using calls and hoping....
Sun, 2006-01-01 23:07#6
Have you tried honey burn- sugar smoking, Liquid smoke, I have some tips for you if you are interested.
Sun, 2006-01-01 23:48#7
Sure would love to hear them.
Mon, 2006-01-02 22:14#8
yeah thats sounds cool fill us in would ya
Tue, 2006-01-03 14:29#9
Baiting without using bait
From what I have read on you comments it appears as if you cannot lay bait in your area. You will want to check with your local conservation office to see if this is legal in your area.
As with hunting of any game you have to put the time in the field to scout out your location, looking for tracks, trails, scat, treemarkings ( claw scrapes). You should look for a water source nearby and of course nice cover not only for bears but for you as well. I like treestand hunting myself as I get above ground level and can see more , further you have more of an advantage being above the line of sight of the animal you are hunting. Thats not to say ground hunting is worse or better, hey any day not working and hunting is heaven on earth just have fun with it. I can go on and on about how to hunt but thats what hunting articles are all about so lets asume you have scouting and found a nice area and have a ground or tree stand set up and you want to draw your bear in as you cannot have bait on the ground.
I like to go out about 4 hours before dark, To lay my scent balls -rags etc takes about 1 hour or so.
1. You should buy a box of Large Zip Loc Bags ( buy good quality bags ). Next you should buy a bottle of liquid smoke $2.00 at any large grocery store. Also buy a bottle of liquid ANIS oil $ 2.00 to $4.00 at any grocery store.
Buy a bottle of liquid baking vanillia, pure is even better.
Liquid blueberry oil- strawberry oil- raspberry-oil
Further there are products on the hunting market that you can buy that are liquid and similar to the above like liquid bacon scent.
Get a bag of cotton balls.
get a spray mister bottle
2. Use rubber gloves and put 15 to 20 cotton balls per scent you have bought in the bags.
3. Use an eye dropper not to waste the product and put 2 to 3 drops of liquid scent on each ball , put back in the bags and seal.
4. You should have 2 to 3 bags sealed with 15 to 20 cotton balls in each bag that are scent soaked. You will set these up around your hunting area.
5. Spay your self with scent shield before entering your hunting area I like to minimize the amount of human scent. Some don't it's entirely up to you.
Use the rubber gloves and place the cotton balls as far out as 300 yards from your stand and in a radius working inward to your stand. If bow hunting bring them all the way into to 20 to 30 yards from your stand. The cotton balls should be placed on branches as high up as you can reach and even bend small trees over to get them up higher to get the scent out.
Use different scent balls all over your hunting area. Save about 5 balls from each bag.
6. If you can get resturant- cooking greese this will help alot , they usually throw it away. Just ask the manager if you can have it most usually will. Fried chicken grease in liquid form works best for me. They come usually in 5 gallon buckets. Get some burlap sacks or strips of potato ot tree burlap and cut into 1 foot strips about 1 foot by one foot.
Just before you are going hunting
Heat the grease in an old pot or fry pan . I heat mine on an old propane burner outside. Once hot put about 10 strips in the grease until they are soaked.
Get a small plastic bucket like an ice cream pail and put the strips in that as well as any left over hot grease and seal it.
7. When you are putting the balls out you will also place several of these strips out. Find a long stick in the bush and get the strips up 10 feet or higher in the trees.
8. Save about 5 strips and have them placed close to your stand 20 yards for bow, 50 yards for rifle depending on your tree cover. Hang all 5 up 10 feet or more but in close range to each other make sure you have a good shooting lane to the rags. You will want to leave the ice cream pail there as well unless you want a close up visit. Put the saved balls you have also in this ( scent tree) .
9. Now for the final scent draw in. You will want to do a scent burn this gets plumes of sweet smelling smoke out and the bears in. I usually burn for 10 minutes in one location and them move 50 to 100 yards and do another burn.
You will need to collect large empty coffee cans. Not small ones ,but large 1 kg cans.
Punch 2 holes near the lip of the can on either side and snake through string or wire to make a handle.
In the can put a 1 cup of white sugar- 1/4 cup of honey ( optional), 4 strips of chopped up bacon, 1/4 cup of brown sugar. ( you can add a packet of drink crystals like stawberry fruit , raspberry etc instead of the brown sugar.
3 teaspoons of water. 3 teaspoons of bacon - chicken grease, 1 teaspoon of liquid smoke. Mix up and put the lid on top. It should look more crystalized than watery, if its to watery just add more white sugar.
10. you will need a small hand held propane torch. Propane bottles are about 3.00 like a coleman propane bottle and a twist on in expensive torch is about 5.00 this torch will last a long time.
11. Once you have laid all the cotton balls and grease strips you will want to start smoking.
Go out about 200 yrds from your stand and hang the coffee can from a branch about 6 feet up. Light the torch and point the flame under the bottom of the can closer to the ends and hold it there, The bottom will heat up in a couple of minutes and large plumes of white smoke will come out. You should move the flame to a different location on the bottom of the can after a couple of minutes burning. Do this for about 10 minutes in one location. Then move 50 to 100 yards in another location and continue. You can do this a couple of times and then go back to your stand location and burn by the grease rags. Mix up the sugar with a stick -- you can bring some sugar or drink crystal's in a bag and just add more. Burn by the rags for 15 minutes or so. Leave the can by the rags where it is hanging up.
Spay youself with scent shield,
Go to your stand , keep quiet and harvest your self a nice bear.
12. You can take several small spray bottles next time you hunt and spay the balls with your liquid scents to refresh them. Also heat up grease and put it in a spill proof pail and use this to refresh the rags on the trees instead of bringing in more rags. Any left over grease throw it on your scent tree.
13. For even more success make an additional smoke can. You will need a large coffee can and a small can. Make a handle in the big can like the other coffee can. In the small can you will have a honey scent mixture and the big can 1/2 way up will have holes in it and rods through it to sit the small can on. At the bottom of the big can you will sit a small can of cooking fuel. You can buy these cans of heating fuel with wicks in them already to go at any sporting or hardware store. I find the gell ones work best . They are only about3 to 4 inches in height. light it inside the large can put the rods back in place put the small can on the rods and hang about 8 to 10 feet of the ground. A nice y shaped stick should get it up on a high branch. The small can sits just about the flame. This will burn for hours and get the sweet scent out there.
Do this after you have done the other torch burn's.
I hope I have been helpful here and if you need anything clairified let me know.
I am sure others on this site have lots of tips they can add so you have some to draw on.
Take care and harvest your bear
Wed, 2006-01-04 00:03#10
I think if I smelled all that I would come and take a look!
Have you killed many bears with this method? It sounds to me like it would work. Do you get results on the first day, second?