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new york turky hunting

just read this and give any suggestions you have.

in the morning when i go out i can hear the toms gobble every where but as soon as they hit the ground from there roost they stop gobbling and won't come to my calls because they all have hens with them, but after a while they will come out to the field with the hens and the tom will strut around to the hens but will never get close enough to get a shot, so i tried to just get the group of hens to come but they allso ignor my calls

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Hunter, I've had this same

Hunter, I've had this same scenario happen to me on a couple different occasions. I'm no expert of course but after calling and calling to no avail it's time to just move on. If there's a way to change this I'll surley try it. Everything I've read on it says that once they're with the hens they wont leave for fear of losing thier group to a more dominate Tom on the prowl. You may get a horney jake to leave the flock and come looking when there's a Dominate Tom, He dont waant to buck the big boy. Good luck. Thumbs up

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If he's henned up move on to

If he's henned up move on to another bird or try one of your other spots. If you dont have any other spots to try, go get some breakfast and come back in a couple hours. Those gobblers know where those calls came from in the morning and once they get 'done' with their hens they will sometimes come looking for you.

If you dont want to leave the area, and have the patience....just put out the dekes in that field and wait them out. Do some soft calling and hope for the best. Good luck:thumbsup1:

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New York is tricky with the Noon shut off time in the Spring.

Its tough in the spring season when you have to be done at Noon.  I've pulled them away from the heirem on their way to the night roost successfully a couple times.  You may want to have a greater distance with Jake/Tom decoys to make the Boss Hen seem more dominant and entice the one you want to steal her.  Sometimes putting  a full Fanned Tom Decoy with your hens is poster for leave my heirem alone and I'll leave yours alone.  We hunt in Rush, Ogden, Honeoye, Bristol and Italy.  Love flying back home, but this year we drew 2 Arizona Merriam Tags.

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I have had this happen too.

I have had this happen too.  I’m fairly new at turkey hunting so not an expert at all, but what I did was decide that if I couldn’t get the turkeys to come to me, I’d go to the turkeys.#1              

Yes I have heard that you should always call the turkeys to you and not stalk them, but I did it anyway and it worked for me.  Another option is to deliberately scatter the flock.   Then get between them and call.  The flock might just all pick up and leave but maybe – just maybe they’ll call to each other and come thinking that you are one of their own.                     

 

If that tom wanders in range, then take him!  Good luck!  The spring season is almost here.

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Thats a great fall tactic to

Thats a great fall tactic to break up the flock , stealthily sneak to another location near by and call them back together as they're be looking for one another, it does work but you have to be very cautious as they can come from any side and bust you . The spring season is harder but it worked and taking that Tom is what it's all about. Congrats on getting your bird that way. Thumbs up

 

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