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First, I know this is not rational, but then I don't think anyone here can really say all their gun decisions are rational.

I have a .243 win, a 30.06 and a .375 H&H.

They all shoot good and I like them all, but (and here is the not so rational part), I want to get a nice custom rifle. Do I need it - no, but that is not the point, I simply want it. I have been looking at Cooper rifles and like them. A friend has a couple and loves them.

Now for the decision that I am struggling with. Do I replace my remington xcr 30.06 or do I get a different caliber?

I'd like to use it for pronghorn hunting so a couple of new calibers that come to mind are the .25-06 and .270.

Still, I shot my first goat with my .30.06 and it is hard to beat the versitilty of the .30.06 so it would be nice to have that caliber in a custom rifle.

My .243 is close to the .25.06 and I don't want to get rid of the .243 because it is so much fun to shoot. No kick, accurate and just a nice rifle.

So, here is an opportunity for you to voice your opinion. I am all ears.

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A 270WSM is a good choice or maybe a 35 Whelen

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Nosler Custom #2 in .280 Ackley Improved...... But I'm with you on the Cooper. That Western Classic is a nice stick.
I just went around with this whole issue myself trying to build/buy a custom hunting rifle and ended up buying a Dakota 97 Outfitter Allweather in 300 win mag. Just could not get a response from the rifle makers I was interested in buying from so I gave up and bought the Dakota.
Rogie

link to rifle http://www.nosler.com/index.php?p=1

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Isn't that Western Classic sweet! I think I'll go with the classic.

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Yea, thats a Nice Rifle.
Either way .... caliber wise the .280 A I fits right in don't ya think? It has a nice range of bullet weights up to 175 which nicely transitions the gap from your .243 to your 06. It'll do everything that .270 will and it's a little more exotic to go with that custom nature of the rifle. Yep, gets my vote.
You thinking about your glass and rings yet????
Rogie

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Ok, I haven't thought about the 280 AI, but I started looking at it after you mentioned it and it is interesting. Is it a wildcat cartridge? I didn't see ammunition for it so is reloading the only option?

What size bullet does it use? I looked at bullets and don't see a .280. I see the .277 and .284. Which one would you use for reloading?

I figure to use a Nikon Monarch with the BDC reticle. I have one on my .243 and like it.

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I think it's the .284 in weights from 120 to 175 grain. Check Nosler's reloading data under 7mm.
Rogie

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The .280 AI has a diameter of .284 the .280 AI has a slight advantage over the .280 rem, if it where me the only advantage the .280 remington has is its factory loaded(I don't reload rifles...Yet Evil! ) and my dream rifle is a .280 remington 7600

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Nosler loads the .280 A I in 140 grain Accubonds and you can always shoot the standard .280 loads from Remington which are loaded in the 175 grain in a pinch. You will have to do that to get your brass anyway, right? If you reload you've got a few more options.
Rogie

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Realy can you get reasonable accuracy with the standard .280 loads? just curious.

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Unclear on how the accuracy is affected. But I read that the brass is fire formed for the A I loads by shooting the standard cartridge. I think just the shoulder dimensions / angle change not the over all length of the case. Maybe Don Fischer or someone more knowledgeable can weigh in on this.
Rogie

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