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The .243 is an excellent cartridge, however many states don't allow anything under .25 caliber for hunting deer size game. I don't know about Idaho but your neighbor Oregon requires .25 or better. Or they did the last time I hunted there anyway. It has admittedly been about 15 yrs. You might want to at least check on it not only in your home but states you might hunt in.

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Dont forget the 6.8SPC in 110gr, excellent caliber with less recoil than the 243 and 80% killing power of a 308 that is loaded with 150gr bullet.

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BunnySlayer wrote:
The .243 is an excellent cartridge, however many states don't allow anything under .25 caliber for hunting deer size game. I don't know about Idaho but your neighbor Oregon requires .25 or better. Or they did the last time I hunted there anyway. It has admittedly been about 15 yrs. You might want to at least check on it not only in your home but states you might hunt in.

I know you can use a 24 cal in Ore. seems to me that years ago it was nothing smaller than 23 cal. Come to think of it, Ore is 22 cal center fire now for deer.

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I'll agree with Chester and add my support for the 7mm-08.

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as is often the case...I'm from another planet on many topics

when my boys stepped up from learning with the .22 they shot a good ol' 30-30 Winchester lever action. I'd say a more than a few deer have been harvested with a 30-30.....and for what it's worth...up here it remains a damn good gun for moose.....although I know there'll be plenty of disagreement on that. The 30-30 is a nice step up in my opinion. They both have moved on to .270 and .308 and both have harvested moose and caribou - they are 15 and 17 years old.

Maybe I'm just getting old....no doubt all the rifles mentioned above are great...but some guns are tried and true...for me that's a 30-30. Hell, I ALWAYS have my 30-30 with me in the bush up here.....ya, with some bigger rifles along...but quick up and quick to shoot and plow through the willows is what you'll get with the good ol dirty 30-30

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For hunting, I'm a firm believer in using a caliber/round that you can easily purchase ammo for, over the counter, at any backwoods mom and pop shop. You never know when you may need to make a purchase.

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30/30 would be a good choice too, although I wouldn't go much bigger than a deer.

The only other cartridge I can throw out that hasn't already been mentioned is 6mm Rem. Same idea as the 243, with a bit more pop.

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When my girls started hunting I bought them a 243 and it worked great , with a well placed shots they both droped there deer cleen. But the next year they wanted to hunt elk , so again I was looking for rifles. I found a cleen old mossberg in 308 cal and wacked a big chunk off the stock and mounted a big fat limb saver recoil bad and had a gun smith cut the barrel down to 20" . THEY LOVED that gun they would rather shoot it than the 243 .The next year I found a used savage, left hand ,22" barrel in 30 06 cal and fitted it with the same recoil pad after shorting the stock . Works great , she"s 5'5" 98 pounds, bottom line I think FIT and BALANCE and a FAT recoil pad are the key.So cruse the pawn shops and gun shows have your kids shoulder a lot of guns untill they find one that fits. If its too much money then buy cheep and fix it the way you like and have fun doing it, You cant screw up a $300 used gun too bad , I like that route, kids are hard on guns , I was and still are. But dont go too cheap on the glass that don"t pay It took me too long to figure that one out!! good luck have fun.

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Location: Idaho
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Thanks everyone for the great suggestions. I haven't had a lot of luck with the pawn shops around here. I did find a sweet used remington 700 in 30-06 that I picked up. Figure I will go with a nice pad and reduced recoil amo if need be. I figure the 30-06 gives me a much better set up for the future. If it is still too much for him (don't think it will be) I will borrow the father-in-law's 30-30 Marlin. I'll know better once I get a chance to hit the range. Assuming I can find ANY amo anywhere...

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I would recommend a .30-30 Handi Rifle from H&R. It is easy to handle and good for deerhunting. Price is low and they are good shooters.

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Kirrmeister

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