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new rifle, need a scope

i just bought a brand new weatherby .270 and am looking for a good scope to accompany it. this is my first rifle and i hope to use it primarily for pig hunting, with a possibility of deer/elk. i looked at some of the high-end scopes where i bought the rifle and saw some were upwards of $750.

i'm looking for something more in the $200 -$300 range. i know you get what you pay for, but are there good scopes out there for under $300? the guy who sold me the rifle said he'd knock 15% off a scope purchase once i picked up my rifle. i gotta wait 10 days to pick it up anyways, so i'm trying to find the best scope i can in my price range.

thanks for the help!

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You're right about" you get what you pay for" and you will get a good quality scope for $300 USD Leupold make quality products and seems tobe the most popular choice from what I read
There is a diiference between Lifetime waranty and Limited Lifetime warranty so check that out.
As with just about anything, something always seems to screw up when you need it most, or at least with me Ask the dealer if HE/SHE will replace the scope "over the counter"if there is a warranty covered problem and you need a scope, like two days before a hunting trip for example.
Check around other places too, you're under no obligation to buy your scope there

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Go to "Savage Shooters". There's a great article there by Randy Wakeman on scopes. I believe that you can get a good quality scope for under $200. ie: Some Leupold's, some Bushnell's and Nikon's.

Most of the hulabalow about qualities in scopes center on the glass and most os those are not visible to the human eye. But if you have a product to sell, you need a good pitch. If you place the moct expensive scopes and the good more reasonable scopes behind a shield where you cannot tell the brand other than by looking thru the scope, you'll have a very hard time telling which is which. I believe it's called luck. But it does give us things to talk about on the internet.

Keep in mind that nobody makes a good $30 scope. The cheap Leupolds are said to be their old top of the line model's. I have an old Tasco World Class on my 6.5x06, been on there for about seven years now and good as new. Cost me $89 new. BUT, used a great deal of caution on that cheap of scope. If you can afford a Weatherby to shoot a pig, you can afford a Leupold to look at it with.

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I'm the kind of guy that appreciates quality, performance, and durability, but won't pay an enormous price for it. IMO, you can get a huge leap in quality when jumping from $50 to $300 in a scope, but won't necessarily get the same size leap between $300 and $1,000. I put a 3X9 Leupold VX-II on the 700 XCR I bought last fall, and I've been extremely happy with it. It'll get you fog-free performance, low glare, and excellent low-light performance, but still leave you enough cash for other gear.

In terms of quality, you can't beat Leupold. I know a guy who lost a rifle in a river on the North Slope, and didn't get back with a magnet to fish it out until the following spring. The rifle was torn up, but the Leupold scope was still clear as a bell.

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http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=162683

Cant beat the quality you get for the money.....I have all together 6 Nikons on my weapons and will be adopting 5 more for the new "toys" im gettin soon. Absolutely WONDERFUL light transmission....Now the one I posted on here is just an example...I dont Have any 50 mm obj ones simply because I dont like the higher cheek weld position that you have to use (sept for them new leupolds that aint cheap either) But the 40mm ones I can see dern near in tha dark .... And they Handle the belt from my .300 win mag.... My old .444 Marlin....My 12 guage slug barrel with the 3 inch mag slugs ( OUCH ) My .7mm mag and my 300 weatherby Mag ( another OUCH ) Plus they have fantastic warrentes as well IMHO same quality if not better than the Leupolds at dern near half the cost... The prohunter series are great...The Monarchs are even better but a lil more salty.. I have the Monarch http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=363998

on my .22 250 for ground hogs and have YET to have a prob with it or any of the others... One this I would recommend would be the extruded aluminum rings for mounting as they are more consistent than the machined alum or steel and lighter...Good luck and I hope this helps

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the nikons and leupolds both seem to be top quality, so i suppose if one had a better warranty than the other it would make the decision much easier. i'm leaning towards the leupold VX-1 just because everyone has talked about the lifetime warranty leupold offers.

does nikon offer something comparable to leupold's warranty? i looked at the scopes on their website but didn't see the warranty info.

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Lifetime warranty on Nikons as well and like I said earlier the clarity and quality are comparable if not better than the Leupolds...Nikons lowest end "junker" model has 90% light transmission.. People forget that Nikon has been in the business of lensed optics for longer than leupold has been thought about...Cameras have to be of an even BETTER quality than a scope and they have MASTERD the art...Im not cuttin down Leupolds as they are fine scopes but Im not gonna go pay 450 to 650 bux for a scope when I can get just as good if not a BETTER scope for 300 or even 200...Its kinna rediculous to do that dont ya think? I dont pay for a name...I pay for proven quality...customer service..and a good warranty..All of which Nikon excells in...

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cam69conv wrote:
I dont pay for a name...I pay for proven quality...customer service..and a good warranty..All of which Nikon excells in...

Leupold has the name it has because it has decades of proven quality, second to none customer service and second to none lifetime warranty. I'm not knocking Nikon. It is grabbing an excellent name for itself but Leupold has earned the name it now has. Thumbs up

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Yes leupold has been around a long time...But nikon has as well...granted not making scopes but they have with optical equipment....So heres the question....Put them side by side blind...you gonna see the difference???No...Both have a lifetime warranty...Both have excellent clarity...Both are fog,water,and shock proof...One costs 600 the other costs 300....So your saying you are gonna spend 300 dollars more for a scope with nothing more to it than the other just for a name? Nikon company has been around just a smidge longer than leupold and has well earned its reputation for quality as well...the focus on this post is what can I get for 300 or less....Nikon's 300 dollar scope EXCEEDS Leupolds 300 dollar scope by far IMHO...When you start matchin PRICE Nikon beats leupold HANDS DOWN all the way around....Now as Far as customer service and warranty....A buddy of mine ended up with a scope that the retical got knocked sideways in somehow....He called, sent it in...they sent him a brand new scope within a week.....leupold gonna beat that??? Most of your stores that sell the Nikons will take them back there and deal with Nikon themselves...That RARELY happens with Leupold because of the expence..Not many stores want to be out 400 to 1000 bux for 2 to 6 weeks waiting on Leupold to restock it for them.

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sounds like you cant go wrong either way. i appreciate all the advice and input. looking forward to getting one or the other mounted on my first rifle soon and taking it out shooting!

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I looked at both Leupolds and Nikon and while both seemed like good quality products I opted for the Nikon and haven't regretted it yet. I just purchased a second scope as well and decided to get another Nikon since I really like the one that I already had.

Original Nikon:
Monarch 3x9x40

Second Nikon:
Monarch 6.5x20x44

I haven't had a chance to use the second one yet, it's mounted up I just haven't been out to the range yet. I'll be heading out this weekend but I enjoy the 3x9 and will be moving it down to my Ruger 10/22 when I pick it up this weekend as well.

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