Weather we like the idea our not we as hunters are going to have to accept it. I personally do not mind the reintroduction of native animals back into the wild where they once existed weather they are a predator as the wolf is or not. Just look at what the states or feds have revived from the brink of extinction here in the states and now you are allowed to hunt. There is nothing like listing to the sounds of a wild wolf at night or during the first hours of daylight as you sit there waiting for the sun to come up.
Critter,your point is well taken, I would also enjoy listening to and maybe seeing wolves. I am in no way any kind of expert on the matter. I just think that it is too easy to let populations get out of hand, and as hunters you know what we are up against to get legislation to control populations of certain species. At some point there will be a huntable population, I just think there needs to be a comprehensive plan from the start. Maybe there is?
Walkin, I am sure that there is a plan out there but just what it is is yet to be seen. I know that the reintroduction of wolfs in the Yellowstone and surrounding areas has worked and with Idaho giving out hunting tags for it is visual signs that it has. I have a friend that has some property in Idaho City, Idaho and he has a few that wander his property. He hasn't seen them yet but he has seen the tracks.
I think that we as hunters need to do a lot of thinking about what is right for the outdoors and forest. When I first started hunting we killed every mountain lion that we saw with the excuse that we were saving the deer. Were we right? I doubt it. The last mountain lion that I saw I just sat and watched her and three kittens play in the snow. I didn't even think about shooting her. I have done the same with coyotes. I watched one in a herd of cattle. He would yelp and bark at a cow until it started to stamp its feet witch would scare out a mouse witch the coyote would then eat and the process would start all over again.
I don't know, perhaps I am getting old or something but I have changed even the way that I hunt. There are very few of us out there that really need the meat to survive or feed our families anymore. This past year I did manage to harvest 3 elk and gave two of them away to some that needed the meat and were happy for it. As far as deer I am a horn hunter anymore. It had been 6 years since I shot a deer so this last year I took a mature 4 pt buck. He didn't meet my expectations as far as size but he sure does taste good.
It was once said the we as hunters are the stewards of the wilds. I am coming to believe that in more ways than one. I now see elk roaming the hills where you would never expect to see one and didn't even as little as 30 years ago. I have watched the Buffalo herd in Utah go from a few animals with only one hunt a year for the ones that the Fish and Game told you to shoot to a herd that this year has hunts for both cows and bulls. I think in the next few years we as hunters are going to have to make some hard decisions, what they will be are yet to be seen but we are going to have to accept them and go on from there.
I probably have gotten a lot of misinformation about the wolves, I thought they had decimated the Yellowstone Elk herd, which was probably having problems with overpopulation. I think as long as we are able to hunt them to control populations,it will work out fine ,I think some of the provinces in Canada do this and they still have thriving elk & deer populations, I would like to see my kids be able to enjoy the outdoors in the future in some of the ways I have. Pretty cool with the coyote and the cow, have watched foxes pounce on mice from my kitchen window. The 4x I killed this year is a pleasant change from whitetail, more tender , no gamey taste,sage is a good flavor.
Not real popular idea with locals here in Catron county...but it is the home of Aldo Leopold Wilderness and all. My place is elk haven and that helps offset some of locals land.The wolves have been spotted in neighborhood.I'd like to see them as much as I like seeing the big cats...within reason...
you guys are nuts if you like this idea. look what the wolf has done to the elk population in idaho and the wolf is migrating into surrounding states. if i see a wolf in unit 34 he better hope i dont get the site pin on him
i have to chime in here. i dont know if any of you guys that like the idea have seen what reintroduction has done in states like Idaho or Yellowstone or not but it is not good. when the elk numbers get down below a sustainable number because wolves are wiping them out then guess who the losers are besides the elk. my opinion is that it is a grand design and scheme by anti's to see all hunting stopped. 1 adult wolf can take out 50 animals a year. look at the cow/calf ratio in mentioned states as well as Montana and surrounding states and it is very alarming. there are those that will say well the number of hunters is not taken into consideration but hunters have a set time to hunt and do not affect the calf mortality rate where as wolves hunt year around thereby affecting the mortality and birth rates of elk. what do wolves do to their competition such as the coyote? they kill them. man is top predator now and the wolf should be treated the same. not only do these wolves kill game but livestock as well. for those animals lucky enough to survive an attack they get infected with tape worms from the canine bites and die anyway. wolves are bad news and need to be eradicated period. and noone out there can convince me other wise. those that try are total liberals. in these other states that have had wolves introduced including NM the feds always say there will be regulation on the number of wolves and the truth is there is no regulation period. the feds have lied when it comes to actual numbers of wolves period. in Idaho where they have started to allow limited hunting for wolves the success rate for actually killing wolves is so very low that the wolf numbers continue to grow and are expanding their territory. wovles do not know boundries contrary to what some of you might believe. if you want to support this idea thats up to you but as far as i am concerned man is top predator and the wolf is my competition just like the coyote is the wolves competition and should be treated as such.
I try to keep an open mind,I did see 2 big cats in Catron County ,something I will remember the rest of my life, but I think the wolves have gotten out of hand everywhere they have been reintroduced in the states, the damage is tough to reverse. I still don't like the Idea.
Every year my Pro-Staff and I head to the woods to hunt the old wise Tom. We travel thousands of miles covering numerous states hunting these old guys. Lots of times we end up hunting public lands or private property that have been hunted already. That’s the last thing you want to hear when you just traveled 6 hours that someone else has already hunted the property. We had to come up with a game plan and one real fast.
The first thing we did was ask the farmer were they usually see the birds in...