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New loads

I bought a CVA Optima on closeout and I'm going to try some new loads. I usually hunt CO so I'm limited to full diameter projectiles and no pelleted powder. Normal load in my Remington 700 MLS is 100g of 777 with a 385g Hornady Great Plains conical. Since I'll be using this for moose in NH the rules are different. I bought some White Hot Pellets and some Buckhorn 209 loose powder. The Buckhorn 209 says to use regular shotgun 209 primers with it. I have some Remington MZ 209 primers but they're "made" for muzzleloaders. What's the difference between these and "regular" shotgun 209 primers? I also bought some Barnes 290g Spit-fire TMZ sabotted bullets and the special loading tip for the ramrod. Any suggestions on loads for this rifle? I know to work it up and not load to the max right out of the blocks.

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hotter

I'm not familiar with the Remmington primers but I'll go out on a fairly strurdy limb and say that primers designed for ML are usually "hotter" than regular shot-gun primers causing better ignition.

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The Remington 209 ML primer

The Remington 209 ML primer is just suppose to be a cleaner burning primer than a standard 209 primer and you are suppose to get more shots out of the barrel before you need to swab it down.   As far as a load you can check out the Barnes bullet site and get the recommended load to start out with along with the velosity of the rounds. 

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/MuzzleloaderData.pdf

 

Good luck on your hunt.

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those remington primers wont

those remington primers wont work. Most likely the Kleanbores.

You need full strength primers like the CCI 209M

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Primers

FrontierGander wrote:

those remington primers wont work. Most likely the Kleanbores.

You need full strength primers like the CCI 209M

Remington has come out with a primer specificly for the muzzleloader.  It is designated 209ML with an order number of 23990. 

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primers

I'll pick up some regular 209 primers today. I didn'tknow if anyone had already used the Kleenbore ML primers with Buckhorn 209. Thanks for the replies. Our club has a MZ shoot tomorrow morning so I might give it a go.

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CVA Accura

I sighted in the CVA on Saturday after scouting in the morning. It took me quite a few shots to get on the target. I started out bore sighting through the barrel with the breach plug out, from a sandbag bag rest. Usually that gets me on the paper at 50 yds. I was hitting a foot low at 50. The target board was really shot up so it was hard to find where I was hitting. I started out shooting loose 777 with 348g Powerbelts. Once on the paper I walked it in to about 2" high at 50. I moved to the 100 yd target and I shot a few more times and had it 2" high at 100. I switched to (2) White Hot pellets and Barnes 290g TMZ's. Still on the paper and close to the PB holes. I shot a few more times to confirm where they were going and then I moved the target out to 150 yds. I only had time for a couple of shots and I wasn't happy with my group but it looked like I should be on center at 150 yds. I had one 10 ring shot and one off 3 inches right and about an inch high. I need to practice a few more times but I think I should be good for point blank aim out to 150 yds on a moose. Did I say how much Powerbelts suck? I had a couple of holes that looked like it went through sideways. The Barnes TMZ's fit very tightly in the barrel and I had a hard time getting them seated all the way. Using the 777, I think I had a crud ring so big I didn't get the bullet all the way on the powder. I took the breach plug out twice so I could hammer the bullet out the breach because it was stuck an inch off the charge. The other problem is the ramrod that came with the CVA is junk. I think I'll get a couple of range rods. One for a wet patch, one for the dry patch and one with a bullet seater.

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The Remington primers work

The Remington primers work just fine in my muzzy. I have had zero hang ups.

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use CCI 209M primers. You

use CCI 209M primers. You will also need a #32 drill bit to clean the carbon build up out of your breech plugs flash channel.

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Excellant advise!!!

Excellant advise!!!

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