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NewbienCal wrote:
I am wanting to find a friend who has a 7 mag and do some shooting and see how I do with the kick.

First off there will be QUITE a difference in recoil between the 5.56 and a 7mm class cartridge. That being said, my experience with recoil was that 90% of it was the noise - make sure you wear good ear protection. Once the blast was reduced by good quality ear protection the actual "kick" was easily managed through technique (lean into it slightly).

Other recoil reducing factors (I'm not a gun nut so I leave detailled commentary about that specific rifle to others) would be:

A heavier (as in actual weight of the rifle) rifle kicks less than a lighter one, and a semi auto will absorb a good portion of the recoil as the gases are used to work the action meaning less hits your shoulder all at once.

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thanks for the info. my wife is from moose jaw , Sasketchewan. yeah I have thought about the kick more than anything also just cause my hearing is already half gone from working on heliocopters

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If all you have experience with is the 5.56 you may not want to take the jump up to 7mm mag or the 300 mags out there. Don't try to make your first rifle a do it all rifle. If I were in your position right now, I'd be looking at the 308 win line or cartridges(.243, 7-08, and 308 win) They have light recoil and are going to be proven deer killers and the .308 will take any of the large N. Amer. game you will encounter. I like your choice for rifles (Savage) but don't buy the package deal. Like mentioned above, the scope and mounts are not the best part of the package. As far as your original question on short action and long action, it is strictly determined by the length of the cartridge it is chambered for. The 308 line mentioned above are short action cartridges so the bolt travels less to cycle the action. Another reasonably inexpensive rifle to look at is the Rem. 700 ADL and BDL lines (not to be confused with the 710 line). Good luck on your new rifle choice. Thumbs up

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I have the Savage 111 in 30-06. Plenty of gun for most North American games at a distance below 300 yards. Recoil is acceptable for most and you will find plenty of ammos everywhere.
If you want to shoot long range (over 300 yards) you will need something with a flatter trajectory.
If you want to shoot grizzly bear you will need a bit more punch

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For your first rifle I would also stick to the 308 class cartridges. Never sshot one but I understand the 7-08 is really nice th shoot. I have used the 7x57 and it was really nice to shoot. The 7mm Magnums and 300 Magnums have a lot more recoil. If I were to get a 30 cal in your situtation it would be the 308 win.

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Don has given some excellent advise concerning this dilema Thumbs up .308 Win would be the better way to go given the shoulder problems and regards to hunting most N. American big game.

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308 is perfectly fine so is 30-06.

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I went today and priced out a tikka 30-06 with a leuopold scope for 900 dollars. the tikka was the camo tikka t3. anyone know if this a good any better than a savage to say for the difference in price. I think it is about a 200 dollar difference. also is the twist rate anything I should worry about.

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If it were me I would buy the Savage and put the money you save into a good scope and mounts.

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tika makes a fine rifle.

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