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Location: Missouri/Arkansas
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A 270 is NOT more accurate than a 30-06. Aside from that, its selection of hunting bullets is narrower. The 30-06 delivers more energy at any range than the 270. If you're looking to hunt game like deer, antelope, and mule deer, a 270 would be a fine choice. But a 30-06, especially with proper handloads, can shoot just as flat as a 270, and delivers significantly more energy, especially at long range.

If you're looking to make a choice between the two based on ballistics, you would have to take the 30-06 over the 270. Although the 30-06 gives you more recoil than a 270 if identical weight and stock proportions, it's not a great difference, maybe 3 or 4 ft-lbs difference in actual recoil energy.

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Location: Raleigh, NC
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Captain,
The guy was telling me that if I sight in a 30-06 at say 150 yards, that I'll shoot high at 50 yards due to bullet rise. It's amazing how much different information and choices there are out there. I decided to present my choices to my wife. My mother wants to buy me a gun for my birthday, so I told her Savage 116 ss 270. I also found out that my dad is planning on giving me his Mausser 30-06, so by the good graces of my family I will have two excellent rifles. It's a great "problem" to have. At any rate I chose the new Savage over a Remington 700 because I want synthetic/stainless, and the 700 bdl is pretty much a better looking gun than the Savage, but not a better overall gun for the $$ (in my opinion). I don't know anything about the Mausser, so it will take some getting use to.
BTW, in the 270 what do you think about the WSM guns? There doesn't seem to be a high availability of ammo, so that is why I am going to choose the 116 ss instead of the 16 ss.

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It wouldn't matter what caliber it was, its the same as a 200 yard sight in, the bullets will hit 1.5 to 2 inches high at 100 yards, and group dead-on at 200.

Stainless/synthetic will definitely work, if you get it wet, you won't be having too many problems with rust, plus the synthetic stock won't warp.

Personally, I think the 270 WSM is an ok cartridge, but I think the rest of them are just smoke in the mirrors. I base my opinions on rounds and calibers on what I see at the range or over a chronograph, and they just haven't impressed me.

I own a model 700 BDL in 30-06, it was actually my first rifle, and it went into the woods for the first time in December 2004. When I bought that rifle, I was actually looking to buy a 700 BDL SS, which is a great rifle, but between it and a scope you're looking at $1000+. Since you're going to have both a 270 and a 30-06, you may just want to consider handloading them and working up your own accuracy loads for your rifles.

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Location: Raleigh, NC
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Thats a good suggestion. I have never reloaded rifle rounds, but I have reloaded a lot of shotgun rounds. I'll have to read up on the how to's to do it correctly.
It's funny, I got my first deer last Dec. (with my dads lever action winchester 32 special 170 gr. open sight app. 90 yards.) and I feel like a little kid agian, except opening day is like Christmas day. It gave me the hunting fever, and October seems so long from now. At least I'll have plenty of time to get to know my rifles.
Thanks for the tips, and reloading suggestions are/will be appreciated.
John- Big smile

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Anytime.

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Location: Berkshire, VT
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Wait for the XCR to be available. Check Remington's website for more info on this model.