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New Bear Hunter Needs Advice

Planning on Black Bear hunting very soon. About to buy a Browning A-Bolt in the .325 WSM for the hunt. I need som advice on the where and when.
I live in North Mississippi and we have bears but not enough for a hunting season. I want to hunt for Black Bears but every outfitter I contact brag about how much acreage only they can hunt, how many bears they have, how big their bears are and how little hunting pressure their hunting area has. Every outfitter seems to be saying the same exact thing. I don't know who or what to believe.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated
thanks so much

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Give me a call,no B.S.just the facts.207-684-5142.

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It would help if you provided more info on the type of hunt you are looking for and your preferences on the bear you want to take. How many are going to be in your party etc. The more info you can provide the better info and help you will get.

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There are a few very good outfitters in Maine and Canada that I have hunted with. I am going with a new outfitter this year, it is a ground blind hunt, up close and personal. I want to try something different.

What are your expectations for the hunt? What method do you want to hunt? Spot and stalk, bait or hounds?

I do have one question, what made you decide on the 325 WSM? In my opinion, there is a lot better choices for black bear hunting. I am not saying it will not work, I just like bigger holes myself.

As for outfitters, get references, and talk to the people. Or find someone that has used a good outfitter.

spruce mountain,
Nice site, the price is great, I may have to talk to you about a hunt next year, I am already booked this year to Wade Maine.

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Redhawk1 wrote:
I do have one question, what made you decide on the 325 WSM? In my opinion, there is a lot better choices for black bear hunting. I am not saying it will not work, I just like bigger holes myself.

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+1!!! Thumbs up

as redhawk1 has stated, it will def work...but what did draw you to it for a black bear rifle? Think

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why the 325?- answer

Thanks for the input so far guys.
The reason for the .325 is because I really like the short throw of the wsm
especially in the Browning A-Bolt. The .325 gives the performance of the .338 (or at least very close) without the long throw. I would of course be loading the A frame bullet 220 grain for this gun. I believe this would be more than enough rifle for a black bear on top of being an all around gun that I could use to hunt anything else in North America. I donot like the H&H .375. Way too much drop and way too slow for my taste. Not to mention the recoil at the range. Well that's basically it in a nutshell.
BUT like I said I have never hunted for bear before and in no way claim I know very much about it. I have done lots of research and talked to many outfitters about the recommended ballistics for a rifle.
I would like to do a stalk or bait hunt. I don't care for dogs, well I shouldn't say that because we run dogs for a part of deer season and that can be very exciting, so I am open to any suggestions. I THINK I would rather do a bait or stalk hunt. Please understand that I come into this with the attitude that I don't know much about bear hunting and I learn by listening to those who do.
thanks again
Thanks

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I think either method you use will be personally exciting. If you can try to mix it up. As for the .325 wsm, I think that would be a fine round. I was very close to getting a BLR chambered for that just recently, but I heard too many bad things about the BLR so I opted not to. It is a smaller diameter, but it has a very high sectional density. Good luck and keep us posted. Thumbs up

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Let me give a kick at the cat and maybe help you choose an outfitter. When a guy talks about how much acreage he has, that scares me. I want to hear them talk about how many square miles they have, not acres. And don't believe for a second their claims of lots of large bears. They better be supported with good photos of a lot of different large bears taken in different years with different guys. Outfitters with claims of numerous bears anually in the 300 lb or 400 lb range are full of it. Truth of the matter is the average black female is something like 140 lbs and the average male might be 180 lbs. Average means thats what the guys are shooting. It also means theres far more smaller bears out there and that larger bears are not common but actually rare.

Be careful of outfitters claiming to have nothing but large bears because their licenced areas are remote wilderness and seldom hunted. Large bears are found in built up areas where food is easy to come by, they don't have to work hard for a meal and consequently put on the beef. Remote or wilderness bears expend much of their fat reserves looking for their next meal.

If looking for an outfitter, ask for names of unsucessful hunters from different weeks of the hunt. Often one group can do well the first week and the second and third group may be relegated to hunting over already hunted baits.
Ask how many hunters go through their camp in a season, how many will be in camp when you're there. You've heard of puppy mills? Some guys operate the same way.

I wouldn't book with a guy whose main operation revolves around fishing. Thats the easy money for him whereas a bear hunt is labor intensive and can suffer in the baiting end of things.

So, this is a start.

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Re: why the 325?- answer
agentjoey wrote:
Thanks for the input so far guys.
The reason for the .325 is because I really like the short throw of the wsm
especially in the Browning A-Bolt. The .325 gives the performance of the .338 (or at least very close) without the long throw. I would of course be loading the A frame bullet 220 grain for this gun. I believe this would be more than enough rifle for a black bear on top of being an all around gun that I could use to hunt anything else in North America. I donot like the H&H .375. Way too much drop and way too slow for my taste. Not to mention the recoil at the range. Well that's basically it in a nutshell.
BUT like I said I have never hunted for bear before and in no way claim I know very much about it. I have done lots of research and talked to many outfitters about the recommended ballistics for a rifle.
I would like to do a stalk or bait hunt. I don't care for dogs, well I shouldn't say that because we run dogs for a part of deer season and that can be very exciting, so I am open to any suggestions. I THINK I would rather do a bait or stalk hunt. Please understand that I come into this with the attitude that I don't know much about bear hunting and I learn by listening to those who do.
thanks again
Thanks

I never bought into that short throw. But if that's the round you like to more power to you.

Good luck on finding a outfitter.

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agentjoey,

How you doing hunting for a bear hunt?

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Well i am still looking, i still dont have the rifle yet but hope to soon.
I am looking at several outfitters. this is one I am conisdering
http://www.coastmountainoutfitters.com/

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