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Hi, all -

It's been awhile since I gave everyone an update, so I figured I'd let you know what's going on. Don Fischer has been kind enough to answer about a million silly questions about bedding an action. This month I finally screwed up the guts to give it a try. I first bedded the recoil lug and rear tang, and this did little if anything for the accuracy.

So, Monday I used some glass to apply some upward pressure to the barrel. I put the butt of the stock in a vise, and hung a gallon of Prestone from the front sling stud. I applied some resin/glass about 2" behind the frontmost part of the stock, and bolted the action in.

Here are the results. After three sighting rounds, I shot this group:

Not earth-shattering, but pretty decent, and MUCH better than anything I'd done with the rifle so far. Unfortunately, my second grouping wasn't as good:

The first shot was in the black, 2-4 are the three in a horizontal line, and 5 is the topmost one.

So...I'm not sure what all this means. I'm pretty sure that most of the accuracy gains I have gotten can be attributed to free-floating the barrel and then glassing in a little upward pressure. I was feeling pretty good after the first group, and less so after the second.

So...any other ideas or feedback?

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I wouldn't have put the up pressure in the barrel until after I fired it. Now, with it thghtened down in the stock before you put in the up pressure did you loesn the front guard screw and check to see that the barrel and action sat still?

About up pressure, I've never found it to give better accuracy but some makers, especially Remington, swear by it. asn't so hard as it sll sounded was it? Thing to remember is that once you get the action set in right, test fire it. To fool with up pressure, the best thing to do is add paper shims after you test fire without to see if it helps. As I said, I've never seen it help. Matter of fact, I've never seen any accuracy rifle with any up pressure.

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Hey, Don -

I did fire it with only the action bedded. The results were essentially the same as before I began this entire exercise.

There is another variable in this exercise...today's shooting was my first with handloads (ran out of factory ammo). Could be now that I need to get some good pet loads for a Weatherby .240, and that what I was shooting wasn't an ideal load.

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You should be able to get better performance as you do more load development. Glad to see things are starting to work out.

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I thought I'd give everyone an update on this little project. After bedding the action and putting a little upward pressure on the barrel, my groups got better, but still now nearly good enough. Last month, I decided to send the rifle back to Weatherby.

I got a call from them today. I haven't yet gotten elaboration from them, but they claim that my stock modifications have made the gun unsafe to shoot. They also said that in their test environment, it shot just fine. They also quoted me $750 for a new stock.

I'm so disgusted with the whole thing, I'm about ready to melt the gun into scrap iron. There is no way I'm giving them that kind of money for a new stock, when my mods didn't do anything but improve the accuracy.

I guess I'm in the market for a new stock (but not from them)...does anyone have any recommendations?

Aargh...

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http://www.lonewolfriflestocks.com

They make a Weatherby replacement stock and I believe that bedding the action in is included in the price. Cost is between $645.00 and $685.00. These are Kevlar/Graphite composite.
Rogie

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It sounds to me that with the bedding work etc, you have inadvertently affected the safety linkage in some manner(touching wood,grinding etc) reason why Weatherby says it is unsafe now, and rightly so. But it should be easily fixed, not having to buy a new stock.
I don't think you need a gunsmith, I think you need a good Stockmaker to set this up properly once and for all.
Good Luck Thumbs up

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Hammer1"I don't think you need a gunsmith, I think you need a good Stockmaker to set this up properly once and for all.[/quote wrote:
Heh...and we come full circle.

OK...can *anyone* recommend a good stockman? Someone I can ship this to who'll put it right, so I can quit messing with it and start shooting it?

Thanks...

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I thought I'd give an update on the progress with this rifle. I sent the gun back east to a stock repairman.

The stock got broken in transit.

I hadn't gotten insurance.

But, the greater issue was where to get a replacement stock. Weatherby doesn't make that exact stock any more, and I couldn't find one. Fortunately, someone on Weatherby Collector's forum knew of one sitting in a gun shop. A minor miracle. And, it's beautiful.

The gun sits much better in the new stock than it ever did the old one. After experimenting with some Barnes Varmint Grenade bullets, I cooked up some TSXs over IMR 4831. Here's one of my groups from yesterday:

(Yes, this is a thinly-disguised attempt at bragging.)

Obviously, I can't do that all the time...for that matter, neither can the rifle. But...after all the hassles I've had, I think I'm getting close to having this one ready to go. And, this little group was very good therapy.

After I do a little more work with the TSXs, I'll get back to the Varmint Grenades; my suspicion is that I was overdriving them.

Thanks again to everyone who helped me get through this.

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