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Location: CA Central Coast
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OK...I will give this a try. I think I have everything I need except the boresnakes; I'll try to pick up a couple of these tomorrow.

This is the first time I've ever been told to work from the muzzle to the breech...

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Location: Northern Minnesota
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Work from the breech to the muzzle. There is another article at http://www.shootermag.com under "Keep it clean for accuracy" . This applies to some bore problems.

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Location: Mobile County, Alabama
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I plug the chamber with a piece of paper towel. Drip some copper remover (Sweet's or Montana) down the muzzle end and let soak for about 15 minutes. Then clean from the chamber end with a bore brush. Make about 10 passes back and forth. Spray some break parts cleaner down the bore from the chamber end. Now I repeat the above with powder solvent.

If you want to try this method, make sure to oil the bore before putting the rifle away as the break parts cleaner will leave the bore very dry.

I do not recommend using any kind of bore cleaner that contains abrasives such as JB and the like. Abrasives remove steel.

Lastly, to each his own but I have never found a need for the bore snakes.

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Location: Summit, IL
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bore snakes are great for lever actions. If you are just doing a barrel sweep and not breaking down the action then you need one to clean the proper way ( chamber>muzzel)

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I had a friend with a Savage 99C and he always cleaned his rifle by pushing the cleaning rod through from breach,attaching bore brush( I think he used needle nosed pliers to hold it while attaching) and pulling it back out, repeating etc.
Didn't take him very long either Thumbs up

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Location: Northern Minnesota
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It did not take me very long either. It does now.

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Location: CA Central Coast
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Update

Hi, guys -

Well, the story continues to unfold. Last night, I spent about an hour cleaning the barrel. When I was done, it looked spotless, at least to my eye.

Also, today I replaced the Weatherby scope with a new Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40. I did feel that I was seeing the target a little better with this scope.

So, today, I go to the range. Weather was cool and calm. Attached is my target; the full-size version can be found at:

http://scopedin.com/images/240.jpg

Shots 1-3 were taken at 50 yards to sight in the new scope.
Shots 3-6 were at 100 yards. I'm feeling pretty good right about now.
Shot 7 was after I readjusted the scope for windage. NO further adjustments after this. I'm thinking I've somehow solved the problem.

Then came shot 8. I won't repeat what I yelled at the range after seeing this, but suffice it to say it wouldn't go over well in Sunday school. It's about 2.5-3" to the right of shot 7. Shots 9 and 10 filled in the horizontal string.

I then came home and cleaned the barrel. More crud came out than I thought would be possible after 100 shots, let alone 10.

So: here are my thoughts:

1. there is no way on this earth that I jerked enough between 7 and 8 to account for that spacing. Something is wrong with the rifle.

2. the first six shots demonstrated to me that this (factory) ammunition is capable of shooting well. I no longer think I can attribute the problem to the ammo; again; the problem seems to be in the rifle.

3. one of two things is happening: either the barrel is heating up and the bedding or lack thereof is causing a problem, or this is just super grubby ammunition that is fouling the barrel after only a handful of shots. The gap between 7 and 8, IMO, is too great to attribute to fouling, though.

So...I'm about ready to conclude that this rifle needs a good bedding job. Does anyone come to a different conclusion?

Thanks for hanging in there with me...more as it happens.

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Location: Northern Minnesota
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I would not make any decisions based on 10 rounds of ammo. Especially with the rifle being new to you as well as a new scope. Next time at the range I would start at 100 yards with a cold barrel. I would also try several brands of ammo. Just my opinion.

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Location: CA Central Coast
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I hear what you're saying, but...come on, a jump to the right of almost 3"? Something just isn't right here.

Another factor that I omitted is the possibility that I'm shooting too quickly. The barrel is a small profile, and could be heating up fast. Still, I thought I was waiting at least 2 minutes between firings.

I suppose I could try another brand of ammo, but sheesh...it's hard to blame factory ammo for performance this poor (isn't it?).

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Location: Mobile County, Alabama
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Could the stock be putting too much pressure on the barrel?

It could also be your technique. Be sure to use proper breathing, trigger control, sight picture, follow through, and no cant. That is not to let the rifle tilt right or left while shooting it. Also, be sure your platform is as stable as possible and that your neck is not positioned too high or low on the stock.

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