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need a new shotgun for dove to geese

I have decided I want to get a semi auto 12ga.  I grew up hunting whitewing but have not hunted much else birdwise, plan on waterfowl, upland, geese and turkey.  I have a handful of shotguns but no semi autos.  Was planning on trading in my 870 Magnum for a semi auto, preferrably a Remington 1100/1187 since I have all the chokes including a TruGlo turkey choke, but doesn't have to be.

Any suggestions on a decent, reliable, not too pricey semi?  I kow I can get a smoking deal on an older gun at my local shop (got my buddy a nice Browning Lite 12 for $300) but many older ones are 2 3/4" only and some do not take choke tubes.

Like to keep it under $500 and have no problem with used.

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I'm a snob, I hunt only with

I'm a snob, I hunt only with SxS's. I do have a beautiful old mod 37 Ithica I don't shoot but wouldn't sell it. Thinking back I've only had two auto's in my life, an old Rem something or other in 28ga, ah mod 58 rings a bell, maybe a Win mod 58, and a Browning double auto. Another Browning double auto is the only auto I would ever consider again. Draw back might be it only holds two shell at a time but it is a wonderful gun.

Now I've been around Rem 1100's and as auto's go they are supposed to be very good guns, Never even seen an 1187 but it is the up grade from Remington for the 1100 so I suspect it is a good gun. Either would probably be a good choice. I would also look into an extra barrel. A 28" or 30" barrel is fine for pass shooting, swings very nicely, but for upland game at closer ranges, a 26" barrel points better and comes up quicker.

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Keeping it under $500 is

Keeping it under $500 is going to be a challenge, new, used or otherwise.

You might stumble across something at an estate sale or possibly a friend of a friend who is really hurting for some quick cash.

When it comes to the semi-autos, do youirself a favor and steer clear of the cheap junk.          Tri Star, stoger, etc.  I have never owned one, but some claim the Mossberg 935 is OK.  It is one of the lower priced guns that actually work.  Some of the spagetti guns are real good (Beretta/Benelli), others are very poor.  Most of the US firms sell semis that work well.  If you can work a partial trade for your 870, go for it.  Most of the later guns come with a set of chokes.  You can add more later if you like.

I have never found a need to shoot 3.5 inch loads to kill geese.  Half the fun of goose hunting is working them in. 

 

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for under $500

You might have a hard time finding a good semi-auto for under that price.  Have you considered the Russian made Baikals.  Recently here in the USA they are now sold under the Spartan brand name and exclusively imported by Remington. I have a gunsmith buddy who hooked up a few of our friends with those Baikal brand shotguns.  That was about 8 years ago when EAA was still the importer of them and they all love those guns.  They all boast that they are the most reliable auto any of them have ever owned.  I kind of wished I'd jumped on that band wagon back then too.  I could have had one for a very very good price.  I didn't because my old reliable Remington 11-87 has always performed flawless for me on all my hunts and I wasn't really in the market for a new shotgun at that time.   

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I have been seeing some 11-87

I have been seeing some 11-87 Sportsmans for at/under $500. 

 

Went out Saturday and shot some Mergansers and Canada Goose.  Did see that my buddy's 3 1/2" Nova did not do any better than my 3" 870.  First time I have shot a goose, those are some tough birds.

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11-87

gjk5 wrote:

I have been seeing some 11-87 Sportsmans for at/under $500. 

 

Went out Saturday and shot some Mergansers and Canada Goose.  Did see that my buddy's 3 1/2" Nova did not do any better than my 3" 870.  First time I have shot a goose, those are some tough birds.

Cool. I wasn't aware that the newer 11-87 were still selling for such a good price.  I think I paid about $499 for mine brand new back in '94.  Excellent shotgun, mine is the field grade Special Purpose version in 3 inch mag with all steel parts rough bead-blasted and blued, anodized matte black aluminum trigger guard assembly, and matte rich brown American walnut stock and forend, came with a woodland camo padded sling, which I still use.  I think they stopped producing my version of that model at least 6 years ago. I've been more than happy with mine, still after 16 years of using this shotgun. I take great care of it, as I do all my guns, though it has earned it's rough seasoned appearance to show it's been a well used waterfowler's gun.

Yeah for Geese I've found that either a really dense steel load of BBs works well or even T-shot when using 3 inch shells.  I've had terrible luck with #2 steel on geese in 3".  I've seen #2 work well with 3.5 inch shells though.  In my gun when going for geese I just simply chose the heaviest weight of steel shot I can get from #1 on up to size T. 

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found a gently used Benelli

found a gently used Benelli Super Black Eagle II, 28", camo, 2 3/4-3 1/2 today for $700, put it on layaway

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Excellent! Wind at your back

Excellent!

Wind at your back . . .

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nice

gjk5 wrote:

found a gently used Benelli Super Black Eagle II, 28", camo, 2 3/4-3 1/2 today for $700, put it on layaway

That's definitely a solid buy.

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Great buy on the Super II.  I

Great buy on the Super II.  I have a synthetic one I bought brand new for around $1,200.  Getting it at $700 in camo is a very solid buy.  Congrats.  Thumbs up

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