thanks all for the info. Scouting trips are turning up few signs, their there, just scarce. I have found a small elk herd, maybe 5-15 critters, hiding in a small valley western slope of Mt Jefferson. Be going up for another scouting trip tomorrow.
@Bowhuner13 Yes I have a Boykin, female. Great little dogs, easy in a canoe, easy to handle, easy to train. I have had larger dogs before, some good ones too. I like the smallness of the Boykins, tons of heart and drive in them. Whats that saying about dynamite coming in small packages...)