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my scope outdated?

I am wondering if my leopold 3x9 vari ll is good enough to use on my first elk hunt? I will be shooting a 30.06 and a 180 grain nosler bullet.Should I get a newer and stronger scope?And if so recommendation? Any oppinions on my bullet choice also?

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Why do you think that it is

Why do you think that it is outdated?  That scope will shoot just as well as any of the newer ones on the market for twice the price.  I have the same scope of a 7mm Remington mag for 35 years and have never thought about replacing it.  Every time that I think that there is a problem with the scope I'll take it to the range and find out it was just me. 

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new scope?

Well if I'm makin a long shot it doesn't magnify my target at a distance and its hard to judge the distance and try to allow for drop and distance to make sure I hit it and not just wound it. 

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Shooting a 06 with a 180

Shooting a 06 with a 180 grain bullet you shouldn't be shooting past 300 yards anyway.  That bullet looses velosity and drops like a rock after that. 

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drop like a rock

I agree 30.06 will drop alot,but that depends on barrel length,temperature and elevation.Higher elevation shots you get less bullet drop than at sea level.Only thing is you will need about a yard of hold over to make the shot over 500 yards.

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Let's take the best case

Let's take the best case sernario for a 06 fired out of a 24" barrel with a hand loaded 180 gr Nosler Partition with a top speed of 2800 fps.  Now you won't get 2800 fps but will get close.  Also figure a 200 yard zero. 

300 yards you are down 8" at 2274 fps with 2068 ft-lbs of energy

400 yards you are down 22" at 2114 fps with 1787 ft-lbs of energy

500 yards you are down 45" at 1962 fps with 1538 ft-lbs of energy

600 yards you are down 75" at 1816 fps with 1318 ft-lbs of energy

Now if you are using a 100 yard zero the drop is

200 yards you are down 3 1/2"

300 yards you are down 13"

400 yards you are down 29"

500 yards you are down 53"

600 yards you are diown 86"

While the 06 is a fine long range target rifle in the right hands the 180 grain bullet is not what you would want to use but drop it down to a 168 the the performance comes right up.  But if you are on a cow elk hunt you should be able to get a shot under 200 yards. 

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bullet drop

Is yer figures at sea level? I will be hunting above 6000 feet.And bullet drop for every 1000 feet above 6000 is .5 inch at 500 yards.I wonder about the bullet speed at that distance?Probably won't drop as fast as at sea level.

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more than enough

crowsfoot wrote:

I am wondering if my leopold 3x9 vari ll is good enough to use on my first elk hunt? I will be shooting a 30.06 and a 180 grain nosler bullet.Should I get a newer and stronger scope?And if so recommendation? Any oppinions on my bullet choice also?

If you think otherwise then you have sadly become the victim of marketing hype. Unless it's broken or defective I'd say that Vari II is more than good enough for elk hunting.  The 3-9X power is more than enough for biggame.  I use 5X power myself for all biggame.  As far as bullets go.  In .30-06 anything from 150 grains to 180 grains is plenty capable.  The .30-06 in it's various loadings is plenty capable of taking any game animal in the world.

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You are fine. I dream of

You are fine. I dream of having a leupold on top of every one of my rifles. Just practice a bunch and go out there and hammer em. The others are right though, that is not the best long range load for the ought 6

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The most important thing is

The most important thing is knowing your limitations. If you go out lobbing bullets and hope for the best you can almost guarantee the worst. Your scope should be more than enough and much more than a lot of guys have.

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