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Muzzleloader hunters effect on Archery season

Hey guys. Planning my first elk hunt to Colorado this fall. Trying to settle on some specific dates to go. My question is, How much pressure do the muzzleloader hunters put on the elk? Would it make it much harder for the archery hunters? Im talking about public land. Thanks

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I have never seen a problem

I have never seen a problem while I have been archery hunting or even when I was muzzle loader hunting.  We did camp one year near a tree stand that some archers had put up but we figured that was their problem putting a stand so close to a road and a good spot to camp.

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Been going ML hunting for

Been going ML hunting for several years and have not seen a problem. The unit you hunt could be different but can honestly say have never heard of any problems. Last year our group of three (2 ML and 1 archery) never saw another hunter the whole time other than folks driving the road going to and from their areas and that was very limited too.

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Thanks

Thanks for the help. I didn't know if the overlap in the seasons resulted in a lot more hunting pressure or not. Appreciate your help. Thanks

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I wish they'd separate the

I wish they'd separate the seasons. Two weeks for bow, and two weeks for muzzleloaders.

Bow hunters are taking longer shots than I am with the ML. Not sure why they get a whole month to hunt?

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i dont understand

I don't really understand the overlap either. As a bowhunter, I love the long season but I don't understand throwing in a gun season in the middle of it. Im guessing I will manage to have a good time and enjoy my time in the Colorado wilderness

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You also have bear hunters

You also have bear hunters with scoped rifles that get the whole month of Sept to hunt.

If bow hunters think they'll get the whole month of Sept alone you're dreaming.

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It's all the same

It's just a toolbox to me I have hunted with bow muzzleloader shotgun and rifle. As long as I get to go. The chase is what it's about. The rut of elk should be enjoyed by more than only bowhunters.

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Archery

Personally I would like to see them shorten the archery season. I do know why they do it as not to have a bunch a people hunting at the same time and money. But if I was a manager of wildlife, I would not even have a rut hunt season. I would want the best of the best breeding every year.

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We have to remember that when

We have to remember that when the seasons were first given they were supposed to be primitive seasons.

The inline muzzleloader, and compound bows have changed it. Shots are longer, and more accurate now.

I would love the see real primitive seasons come back. They could have a longbow season, and a flintlock season along with the modern bow and muzzy seasons. Give each one a week in Sept., or 9 days if they could be squeezed in including some of Oct.

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In Colorado they have

In Colorado they have eliminated just about all the advantages that a in line has over a traditional caplock or flintlock.  No scopes, sabots, or pelletized powder.  They did do away with the regulation that the bullet length couldn't be over twice the bore size, but that is about it.  The only real adavantage that my in line has over my caplock is that it uses a shotgun primer, is a couple pounds lighter and has a faster twist to stabilize longer bullets.

One of the problems that I have seen with compound bows is that people are taking longer shots at deer and elk.  They do just fine on a target at 100 yards but they don't take into consideration on how long it takes for the arrow to fly that 100 yards and if the animal might move.  But you would have the same problem with a longbow or a recurve.  It is the hunter and not the equipment. 

One of the problems with more seasons is that in Colorado you have rifle seasons starting the first of October and running until Thanksgiving.  The best that I could figure out is to start the archery season a week earlier in August and perhaps ending it a week or even 2 weeks earlier in September and then letting the muzzle loaders have at it for a week before the rifle seasons start in October. 

No matter what you do you are not going to make 100% of the hunters happy, I would be satisfyied with making 75% of them happy but that isn't even going to happen. 

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