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Jaybe---The reason they have

Jaybe---The reason they have to put "Tentative" is because everything is finalized by the Wyoming Game Commission, which usually happens in late April and then that is actually put in print and on the website.  Until that time they are strictly what the G&F people want to see take effect for the coming season.  Antlered isn't like what you mentioned here in Michigan (I'm in Allegan).  To find their definition you have to go into Chapter 2 of the Hunting Regulations and look at Sec. 2(a) which states "Antlered" means a deer, elk, or moose that has visible antler growth plainly protruding from the skull.  Where a minimum number of antlered points are specified, points shall be counted on the side with the greater number of points.

Since there is nothing to exclude browpoints in that definition, my feeling is that they would be counted and since the initial definition says what "antlered" means, I would think they would be hard pressed to say that a point would have to be any longer that what you could see coming off a beam.

 

 

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OK - Thanks, Topgun (fellow

OK - Thanks, Topgun (fellow Michigander) - I knew that they would have a definition, I just wasn't able to locate it by looking through the pages online.

 So "any visible growth" - that's a whole lot easier to define in the field than a 3" antler (MI).

Obviously, I'm hoping to find a buck with a nice set of antlers, but it's nice to know that if we start running out of days, we can take anything with horns.

Thanks for your help.

 

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It all depends !

Usually when I am telling a story about a deer I will say a 4x5 with browtines. That is just the way all the people in my hunting circle when I was young talked. I learned long ago, when i was 16 and took my first Pope and Young buck, that they counted the browetines.

Also almost every muley I have ever taken has had browetines and they are not all taken in the same units.

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Actually I have started to

Actually I have started to use the term plus browtines now just to completely avoid confusion.

I looked over all my antlers hanging in the garage and came up with about 20% of mine having them. Almost all of these deer were takin in a 5 mile radius.

My daughter did take one a few years ago with forked brow tines. That one was pretty cool.

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hunter25---I've always done

hunter25---I've always done that and gone by 4x4 with brows, etc.

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I am with those of you that

I am with those of you that acknowledge them seperately as in... "Little Billy got a whopper 4x4 with eyeguards!"

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I don't know, it becomes too

I don't know, it becomes too long of a sentence that way. lol

I still think, at least out here, I'd say a "5 pointer". 

Back east, even better, he'd be a 10 pointer.

However, having never shot a 4x4 mulie, browtines or not, I'll gladly call it whatever you want, you just show me where to get one. Wink

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Although I don't have the

Although I don't have the best of areas for a trophy if you ever head out this way let me know and I'll point you un the right direction to get into some. Browtines may or may not be included of course. Big smile

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Cool, I might take you up on

Cool, I might take you up on that.  I am looking into a combo hunt in either the Durango or Craig area.  Looks like you are sort of in the middle there.

And I am not a trophy hunter, so I would be happy with a decent buck and/or a decent elk.  Not picky at all.

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Deer points

I grew up in Colorado at a time when most folks just counted the number of major points on the upper portion of one side of a mule deer's antlers.  We had spikes, forkhorns, 3 points, 4 points, or he had "a pile of points going everywhere."

Boone & Crockett, Pope & Young, and SCI count all points greater than 1" long and longer than they are wide at the base. 

One of my best mule deer bucks is 29" wide with 4 points on each side and no eyeguards.  He was old with a Roman nose, grey muzzle, and teeth that were worn down to the gums.  I always called him "a pretty fair 4 point."   Then I watch some of the Outdoor shows on TV, and some guy is whooping it up about the 8 pointer he just shot.  When the camera shows this buck, its a year and a half old with his first set of antlers.  Out West we'd call it a forkhorn or 2 point as all I can see is 2 points plus a little eyeguard ib each  side.  I think the guy is counting shadows for the other 2 points.

When talking about elk antlers, they were spikes, brush heads, or 6 points, refering only to the number of points on one antler.  I hunted a lot of years before I saw a 7 point bull.  I misjudged the distance to him by about 10 yds and my arrow went right under his chest.  He didn't give me a second chance.

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