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Good post WesternHunter. One question. Were you offered a Bernadelli Roma 3 or a Stevens 310 and both the same price, which would you take? One of the best utility field shotguns I ever owned was a Stevens 310. I also at one time had a Bernadelli Roma 3. The difference in them is about like the difference between Phyllis Diller and Sophia Loren. Both function, but given your choice, which one you gonna take to the ball?

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Ha Ha Laugh Good question Don. First off, if I had a choice between Phyllis Diller and Sophia Loren back in their prime days, heck I'd take Sophia, no question Big smile But see back in my younger single days I dated some pretty hot women and some ended up embarrasing me or making me look bad,or making my life less than optimal. A beautiful shotgun can do the same thing at the range. Beauty and appeal can backfire on you and have a reverse affect.
However, my wife is a very beautiful and sane woman with a good personality and good mind set, so sometimes you do luck out.

But I see your point. If price was not a concern what would I choose? See it's just not as simple as comparing taking a hottie to a ball and taking a fine gun to a hunt. But to answer your question if I were breaking clays with my stock broker or banker then I probably take the Bernadelli Roma 3. Heck I'd even bring my $900 Franchi Alcione and wouldn't feel ashamed.

The company I work for sponsors a sporting clays event for it employees once per year. Our CEO, the man at the top who make millions is an avid sporting clay shooter as is his teenage son who comes along too. It's so funny. Even though all the VPs and Directors who always try to emulate our CEO show up with there fine double guns, our CEO still has always shown up with his same Remington 870 Wingmaster. A gun I'm sure he's had since he was a young man. And he end up hitting about 70 to 80 clays out of 100.

The best and finest stuff in the world doen't make you the best. There's an old saying the goes "if your not enough without it, you'll never be enough with it"

I do see your point though, sometimes thing need looks, but it's not always just about show. I've always had a fine eye for appealing and asthetic things too, but beauty doesn't always cut it. Function and beauty....well that's optimal
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Not to contradict myself or anything, but yes I agree there are certain differences and quality levels that come at an extra cost.

I'm sure a gunmaker who is willing to invest in putting exotic fine wood on their guns and give them a fine polished bued finish will likely be building a fine functioning gun to begin with.

It all boils down to how much more you're willing to pay for those differences. In some cases it is well worth it. In some other cases I can pass.

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Not to contradict myself or anything, but yes I agree there are certain differences and quality levels that come at an extra cost.

I'm sure a gunmaker who is willing to invest in putting exotic fine wood on their guns and give them a fine polished bued finish will likely be building a fine functioning gun to begin with.

It all boils down to how much more you're willing to pay for those differences. In some cases it is well worth it. In some other cases I can pass.

Western I agree with everything you say, and what you are saying is absolutely true. However, I don't think what I said conflicts with what you wrote at all! If I read you right, what you are considering to be quality, is what I call deccoration, and deccoration has nothing to do with the quality of a firearm, or anything else made by man. Here the quality is in the engraveing, or inlays, and polishing, which would stiil be quality if done on a $ 70 USED UP single shot 30-30. It would in no way, however, make the rifle a quality item. What I mean by quality is the same as you do, I'm sure! I consider a quality firearm to be fitted as well as posible, it will feed every time, regardless of weather conditions, and it will fire every time I press the trigger, and hit what the sights are lined up on, every time. The rifle will not fire if the safety catch in the "SAFE" possition, or fire as the safety is released. The wood doesn't have to be exibition grade, in fact, that type of wood is a draw back to reliability. The less fancy grain one has in the wood, the less likelyhood of a broken stock. In a bolt rifle I want CRF action, and PF is not acceptable. The rifle/shotgun must be fitted to you, whether by accident, or by design, if it is to give you the best it is capable of.

As far as I'm concerned, a fancy rifle that is jammed all the time, or the bolt handle still in my hand while the bolt is still closed on an empty case, because it was soldered onto a steel tube bolt, because it was cheaper to make it that way, is not acceptable. Those are not Beauty/Quality rejects but manufactiring rejects. Most guns be thay shotguns, or rifle that hit the dealer's shelf at the $1000 mark, need some considerable finishing to be stone solidly reliable. I sure as hell wouldn't take a$1000 rifle out of the box and go into the weeds with a cape buffalo. I can guarantee you that $1000 rifle will be closer to $2000 before it could be considered reliable enough to depend on for your life. Clay pigeons don't stomp you into the dust, and if you miss one or two in the social fest, well...............

I have a vault full of shotguns and rifles that cost in the area of $100 per, way back when, and they are deadly reliable, but of those that were reliable without some work, the ones that were not were ten times the ones that were right from the box.

Like you, I'm not into bling, but performance! solid performance can be found in a cheap rifle from time to time, but the odds are against it, without some work, and work by a man who knows what he is doing, cost money! Mr. Cool!

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