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Location: Utah
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mydeerwife wrote:
rather_be_huntin wrote:
...While I understand the concern I just don't see how you can really stop it and to your point I don't think more laws are the answer.

Of course laws are never the absolute answer. There will always be criminals out there willing to take the chance and break the law. This can be said about virtually every law on the books. You curtainly aren't suggesting we abandon all laws because a few people break them are you? Most people, and I promise you most business, follow and respect the law. Outfitters are no different. These are for the most part honest , hard working people and they will follow the laws just as you and I do. As to MORE laws...Utah, like most states has absolutely NO laws governing outfitters or guides. They are not even required to have a license.

As another member suggested if you say an outfitter can only send one guide per hunter in the field then why should the rest of us be allowed more than one non-tag holding companion in the field with us?

Really now, you and a few of your part time hunter friends and family members are simply not the same as a well organized, well trained, group of professional hunters like those being fielded today by some outfitters around the country.. BUT, if huge teams or "friends and family" ever do become a problem in the hunting fields, then yes, this issue should also be addressed.

I feel like a broken record but.......I understand what you're saying. I'm just not sure I like the direction you're headed. My point wasn't so much "why make laws cause people will break them" as much as it was to say making 50 new laws that restrict outfitters isn't the direction I think we need to go.

Here's what my point was\is.......I think that the situation with the Spider Bull was a "one off" situation and not a real problem. But if we feel we must do something then hit the outfitters in the wallet. Please go back and read for more detail since you appear to be overlooking or just plain ingrnoring my suggestion but I think by limiting how much an outfitter can charge for a hunt is how you'll avoid having 50 people in the field chasing one animal. Instead of trying to regulate how many people should and should not be on the mountain, you simply take away any incentive an outfitter has to flood the mountain. That way we accomplish the goal of "slowing down" the team hunting but we don't limit freedom too much by limiting headcount on public ground. There is just something that doesn't sit right with me about trying to do that whether it be for comercial or recreational purposes.

Public ground is public ground to me and I just don't want the precedent set that the government can regulate how many people can go on it.....beyond organized campgrounds and things of the like of course.

Location: Utah
Joined: 02/24/2003
Posts: 596
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mydeerwife wrote:
rather_be_huntin wrote:

As another member suggested if you say an outfitter can only send one guide per hunter in the field then why should the rest of us be allowed more than one non-tag holding companion in the field with us?

Really now, you and a few of your part time hunter friends and family members are simply not the same as a well organized, well trained, group of professional hunters like those being fielded today by some outfitters around the country.. BUT, if huge teams or "friends and family" ever do become a problem in the hunting fields, then yes, this issue should also be addressed.

Maybe we are not as effective.....but we certainly could be just as disruptive.

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