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I don't usually mix hunting and politics, but this made absolutely sick to my stomach. If there was ever a case of "money talking" this was it. I hope that all true sportsmen take heed of this, these are the "bad apples" that give the antis ammunition to attack our legitimate pursuits:

http://real-hunters.com/full.swf

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This is, for me, a very difficult topic. For some, it is easy - high fence hunting ain't hunting and should be banned. However, I don't view it quite as black and white as some.

Not all high fence hunting is the same. Ranches in TX and Africa for example may be fenced, but encompass thousands of acres of rugged land.

What bothers me about the video is the pretense that this is hunting. Drugging animals, pushing them in front of the hunter in small enclosures, propping up animals for someone to shoot is not hunting and yet, one is to assume that these "hunts" will be shown and presented as if they were real hunts.

How much pleasure can one get from shooting a dying deer?

I certainly do not advocate for government intervention. We as hunters must handle this ourselves. We should shun these so-called hunting outfits, the so-called hunters and any advertisers or magazines that let them advertise.

Perhaps I should back up. As I think about this, maybe there is a need for government intervention. The nagging issue for me is the health of the wild population. Animals confined in small enclosures will breed disease and it will spread to the wild especially if any of these captive animals escape.

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CVC wrote:
Not all high fence hunting is the same. Ranches in TX and Africa for example may be fenced, but encompass thousands of acres of rugged land.

Agree.

During my recent deployment I had the chance to visit a game ranch in S Africa. Although surrounded by 20ft high fences the 54,000 acres inside the fence certainly would have given the game a "sporting chance" had hunting been allowed.

More disturbing for me about the video was the fact that this "industry" apparently has enough of a lobby to have the laws changed in their favour.

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The video is excellent and highlights a very serious problem. Unfortunately as CVC has pointed out, there are wide variables and extremes with high fence game farms.

I think first and foremost we need to make a collective effort to stop calling it hunting. Its NOT hunting! Its simply shooting a purchased, pre-selected animal, which to me is no different than buying my beef on the hoof and having it butchered. Nothing wrong with that, but don't call it hunting.

I find it disturbing that the deer are drugged, shot and made to look like a hunt. Talk about fuel for the animal rights activists!

Lastly, I would most be concerned about the spread of diseases to our wild deer and elk populations. At one time the spread of CWD was linked to game farms, but don't know if that was accurate or not. I'm guessing an unnaturally high concentration of game animals on a small piece of land cannot be healthy. The captive game will come in contact with wild game, even if its just through the fence. There's an elk farm not far from me, and every winter I see wild elk come nose to nose with the captive elk. Both the captive and wild elk run along the fence, curious about each other.

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I have mixed feeling regarding this topic.

On one hand, I believe more laws take away our freedoms. On the other hand, we need to ensure our wildlife is there for future generations.

Although, I disagree with the tactics in the video, I have hunted exotics in a few high fence operations. With that being said, I've never witnessed anything like that, which was depicted in the video. Is it a valid representation of what takes place no most hunting preserves? I doubt it. At least not where I would or have hunted.

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i absolutely do not agree with the fenced killing in the video...

fenced hunts... there can be a valid argument for the pros and the cons, more of a personal choice imo.

the activities in this video is not of the hunting type. they are nothing more than killing.

just a thought...did they eat the meat? i mean, who would? with whatever drug is pumping thru there system...

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Sick ...........is all I can say,
there is no grey areas, canned hunting has to stop or real hunting will end.
Groups like SCI are very much to blame.
I too will be an anti hunter if we as hunters don't get rid of this cancer.

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