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missed the draw, looking for OTC suggestions

well, i messed up and did not draw.  so now im looking at OTC for a chance at Elk 2nd season Rifle.

 

looking at the brochure, the closest OTC units with no CWD are 511, 581, 45, 44, 444, 47, 471, 43.  not against others, just showing the closest set.

 

so, let me say this is my first year hunting.  also, it looks like i may be going solo.  wondering what unit you all feel would be the "best", best chance at a taking a shot.  more importantly, id love to know what info you used for the choice, and how you came across the info.  also, if i read it correctly, i will only have a chance for a bull.  is this correct?

 

thanx, joe

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wouldn't worry about CWD

CWD wouldn't determine where I would hunt, but.... if it bothers you, some of those are good options.

The OTC tag is bull only, but you can get leftover cow tags in addition to that.  Should be some either sex 4th season leftovers too.  Can only have one tag that allows you to kill a male animal though.

I hunt higher density units with a decent chance at a trophy bull or buck.  I used to sell the data to help you determine that information, but you can figure it out with some math.  I don't let success rates determine much of anything, just help to put it into perspective.  More roads/better access units and low timber density/high visibility will all increase success rates.  So put that into perpective.  If you're looking at success rates of wilderness heavy units or heavily timbered units, make sure you compare those to like units.

This year, I'll be archery hunting a high density elk area with a lot of wilderness that kills a low percentage of bulls, but has only mediocre success reates.  Compared to other wilderness heavy units, the success is a bit higher than average.  For the cow tag, I'm comboing it with a buck tag (probably) during 2nd season because I could draw the buck tag and get the cow tag as a leftover.  That buck tag was the main target as many units have a good selection of leftover cow tags.  Not much wilderness in that unit, which I generally don't like for deer hunting mid season. A good selection of high and low elevation, plus pretty good road access, along with some roadless areas that are never too far for day hunting.

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What am I missing here? They

What am I missing here? They haven't drawn for elk yet.

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just talking in generalities

Nope, no draw yet, just talking in generalities.  Elk leftovers should be similar to normal

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So, he didn't mean he didn't

So, he didn't mean he didn't draw. He messed up and didn't apply?

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think so

That's how I read it

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correct, i missed the

correct, i missed the deadline of the 3rd.  thank you for the response's.  is CWD not such a big issue?  do i make it more than is necesary?   If so, that opens up 38, 28, 37, 371, 36, 59, and 591.  512 as well.

 

i think where i was going info wise is that a unit with a couple years of high numbers filled, will likely continue to have the available game.  i could very well be wrong.  like i said, first year, LOTS to learn.  I come from a non hunting family and the few hunter friends i have, have never invited me along.  but im super excited to get this under way!

 

Another factor i should add.  if i am not solo, my father will be with me.  he is fit to a point, but is also equipped with a colostomy bag, so the terrain may be an issue.

 

Any help ful links to pages i can read?  i try to put an hour a night in on the DOW pages, but at times i feel overwhelmed with info.

 

thanx

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For a lot of useful

For a lot of useful information on the Colorado Parks and Wildlife page, go to the Elk Hunting University.  Even hunters that have hunted elk their whole life will learn something from it. 

As for your dad, if he is a first time elk hunter he can count on hunters luck.  I know more than one hunter that stayed around the camp or the truck and ended up being the only one that bagged a elk that year.  Also with the elevation change you are going to want to take it easy for the first couple of days.  Altitude sickness isn't anything to be trifled with, and you might want to talk with your personal doctor about it.  The big thing with it is staying hydrated but not too hydrated or other problems will creep up. 

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Don't drive yourself crazy

Don't drive yourself crazy with all the figures. Elk hunting is fun. Just have a good time, and enjoy the beauty of Colorado. Shooting an elk is a bonus.

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thanx critter.  ive read most

thanx critter.  ive read most of the EHU articles.  not worried about the elevation.  im in the mountains all summer long.  

 

thanx for all the replies guys.  much appreciated.

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