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Wondering what folks think of the mess in Wisconsin where the guy shot all those folks after hunting in their stand? I read one article that stated the guy was using a SKS, "a common hunting rifle," and shot twenty rounds from it (from the same clip). I've never seen anyone hunting with an SKS. Seems somewhat of an inflammatory remark by the press.

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Okay, even though this has gotten to be an old subject, I'll answer just because you asked. The man murdered 6 people. That's how I feel. 8 hunters with one rifle...if he fired on "return" shot and dropped the individual holding the rifle, that's self defense. But he shot 7 unarmed men, while they were running away.

And by the way, I hunt on occasion with an SKS. If I miss my first shot it's nice to have 29 more to follow up with. lol. Besides, The sks fires a 7.62 round. In case everyone doesn't already know, that's a .308 win. Very common hunting rifle. And the SKS was most commonly used as a...sniper rifle, in the 50's and throughout the Vietnam and Korean wars

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Okay, even though this has gotten to be an old subject, I'll answer just because you asked. The man murdered 6 people. That's how I feel. 8 hunters with one rifle...if he fired on "return" shot and dropped the individual holding the rifle, that's self defense. But he shot 7 unarmed men, while they were running away.

And by the way, I hunt on occasion with an SKS. If I miss my first shot it's nice to have 29 more to follow up with. lol. Besides, The sks fires a 7.62 round. In case everyone doesn't already know, that's a .308 win. Very common hunting rifle. And the SKS was most commonly used as a...sniper rifle, in the 50's and throughout the Vietnam and Korean wars

check your facts. A SKS does not shoot a 308 win cartridge. its shoots a 7.62x 39 mm russian. 7.62mm is .308" or 30 caliber. A 7.62 X 39 round is a far cry from a 308 win also know as 7.62 Nato. A 7.62 x 39 will push a 150 grain projectile at approx 2100 fps where as a 308 win will push that same bullet at approx. 2800 fps. but yes a 7.62 x 39 is very capable of killing a deer. I personally would not use a sks but that because of personal preference.

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I wouldn't use one because I don't see the need to carry a weapon that holds 10-20 rounds and sports a bayonette into the woods to shoot a deer. SKS's were designed to kill people, not to hunt...but to each their own.

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terrible mess that happened up there, will make a person think twice about chewing ass if someone is on your land, who knows with the crazy nuts out there!!!! On a different note, I shoot a 30.06 bolt action. Don't mind it one bit. Howerver, last day of season, shot a friend of mine 30.06 semi-automatic. Holds 10 shells. Now I'm not the greatest shot in the world, but I liked the fact that I had 10 rounds to shoot at a 160 class deer that day!!!! My next gun will be a semi-auto with a clip that holds more than 5 rounds (which is what my gun holds now) just personal preference I guess.

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Holds 10 shells. Now I'm not the greatest shot in the world, but I liked the fact that I had 10 rounds to shoot at a 160 class deer that day!!!! My next gun will be a semi-auto with a clip that holds more than 5 rounds (which is what my gun holds now) just personal preference I guess.

Hummmm.......... Check your local laws on this cause in Florida you can only hunt with a centerfire firearm that holds a maximum of 5 rounds.

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if it were against the law, I wouldn't be using it now buddy........................cmon use your head, i'm not gonna brag about something or even talk about it on a forum if I knew it was illegal....... eye roll

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now hold on there friend, no need to get all snippy about things. I was just trying to help keep you outta trouble.

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if it were against the law, I wouldn't be using it now buddy........................cmon use your head, i'm not gonna brag about something or even talk about it on a forum if I knew it was illegal....... eye roll

It would appear that you would do something illegal and then brag about it or talk about it on a forum as evidenced below:

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"my friends buy deer meat from me all the time, don't see a problem with it one bit, when I pay $150 a deer to get processed, sometimes more than that, I guess it's nice to get a few extra bucks back for the meat I give to them."

The article you were commenting on here, specifically said "People must also remember it is illegal to sell, trade, or barter wild game and fish for monetary gain. The only legal method to exchange wild game or fish fillets is by gifting it.

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wow, if you were actually reading that artice, you'd see that ,that is a regulation in SOUTH DAKOTA, and as you can see I'm from NORTH DAKOTA. What the hell man................go have a bad day in some other forum...........

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Its common on forums for people to throw out suggestions like JTapia's, I do it myself from time to time, not from a high and mighty position, but just friendly heads up. Some times the regs don't apply across state lines, some times they do and it saves the poster the hassle of getting busted.

Some states do regulate the number of rounds you can have in the clip while hunting in the name of (drum roll please!) .... fair chase. Best as I can tell ND isn't one of those states though. Incidentally crossbows are banned completely. Isn't that cute? Can't use a crossbow but you can have a 50 round clip in ND. Ah the joys of state to state game regs.

Now about the taking payment for game meat. Many states ban it and ND is one of them. Check out this, specifically section 9 Transportation and Storage.

It is illegal to possess or transport another's game animal or parts thereof (excluding hide) without the license holder accompanying or as otherwise permitted. Processed and packaged meat of legally harvested game may be gifted to another. Un-processed, un-packaged meat of legally harvested game may be gifted as follows: 1) Prior to reaching the licensee's personal abode a transportation permit must be obtained and accompany the game meat. 2) After reaching the licensee's personal abode if accompanied by the carcass tag of the person who harvested the game.

Gifting is legal, gifts are free of charge. Taking payment for something is no longer a gift.

I personally could careless if you sell your game to joe schmoo. I think the laws should be changed to allow sale of harvested meat. However this still doesn't negate the fact it is illegal in ND and many other places.

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